Author Topic: PCN Eternity Fire and Security LTD Parking without clearly displaying a valid ticket. Mumbles Pier  (Read 65 times)

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Good Morning,
   Can anyone offer advice on the attached PCN which has been received after the original request was sent to the lease company.  Would appreciate any thoughts!

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Did you receive any other documents with the Notice to Hirer?

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Thanks, but the important question above is
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Did you receive any other documents with the Notice to Hirer?

Such as
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(a)a statement signed by or on behalf of the vehicle-hire firm to the effect that at the material time the vehicle was hired to a named person under a hire agreement;

(b)a copy of the hire agreement; and

(c)a copy of a statement of liability signed by the hirer under that hire agreement.

If not, and I bet you didn’t, there’s an appeal as long as the driver is not identified that the hirer can not be liable because the PCN does not comply with the requirement of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedule/4 ) to transfer liability.

You will find a suitable appeal if you search the forum, by all means post it here before submitting for confirmation.
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Just as a matter of interest not withstanding the question of hirers paperwork was a ticket purchased as it appears that there is something displayed on the windscreen.This company has a large number of car parks in the Swansea area. I have yet to receive any information of how litigious they are at present.

Thank you for these.   

I did not receive anything else apart from the PCN!   I think it is likely that a ticket was purchased but there is no way of proving it unfortunatly as the car has been cleaned!

Then you go for the hire and lack of documentation if that is the case. The machine there does take both cash and card so if the parking was paid for by card then this may assist as the sign does not mention that a pay and display ticket must be displayed.

Does this make a difference if the car is privately owned lease?

What do you mean by a "privately owned lease"?

Sorry.  The car is a lease car on finance from a company for 3 years.  Instead of it being hired like as a holiday hire car. Sorry if that comes across stupid but dont know how else to explain it!

That makes little difference in this case. The registered keeper of the car is still the finance company (or some other intermediary), who are hiring the car to you on condition of you making lease payments.
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