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Re: Parkmaven NtK and unsuccessful appeal
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Got it.
So you would not add my point about PPSCoP 8.1.2 e) breach ?

Re: Parkmaven NtK and unsuccessful appeal
« Reply #16 on: »
It's already covered in point 4 of the suggested appeal I provided you. Re-read it!
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Re: Parkmaven NtK and unsuccessful appeal
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Appeal submitted....

Re: Parkmaven NtK and unsuccessful appeal
« Reply #18 on: »
        Hello,

Parkmaven did not drop the case. POPLA has sent me their "Operator Information and Evidence".

Here's their summary:
"We submit this statement in response to the appeal lodged by Mr (kgw) concerning the Parking Charge Notice (xxxx) issued at The Centre Feltham Surfaceon 24-12-2024 . After reviewing the details of this case, we confirm that the PCN was issued correctly due to the motorist’s failure to pay for their parking session as required under the clearly stated terms and conditions of the car park. The signage at [Insert Car Park Name] is prominently displayed and communicates the terms and conditions for using the car park, including the requirement to pay for parking. These signs are strategically placed at the car park entrance and at multiple locations throughout the site to ensure visibility for all motorists. The signage includes details on the payment methods available, such as kiosks, app, phone, and specifies that failure to comply with the terms will result in the issuance of a Parking Charge Notice. To further enhance clarity, these signs are designed with large fonts and contrasting colours to ensure readability, even from a distance. Photographs of the signage, are attached as evidence, demonstrating their clarity, content, and placement. Our records show no evidence of payment being made for the vehicle registration number xxxx on the date in question. The vehicle entered the car park at 13:29:30 and exited at 14:52:11, as confirmed by our ANPR system or observation logs, with a total duration of 1hr 22min 41sec. This demonstrates a stay within the chargeable period. Despite the payment facilities being clearly indicated and fully operational, the motorist did not make the required payment, which constitutes a breach of the displayed terms and conditions. The Notice to Keeper (NTK) was issued in full compliance with the Protection of Freedoms Act (POFA) 2012 and the British Parking Association (BPA) Code of Practice. The NTK provides clear information about the reason for the charge and includes instructions regarding payment and the appeals process, ensuring complete transparency. The parking charge is a reasonable and proportionate measure to ensure compliance with the car park’s terms of use. Despite the motorist’s claims, no evidence has been provided to show that payment was made or that mitigating circumstances prevented adherence to the terms and conditions. In conclusion, the motorist failed to meet their obligation to pay for their parking session, despite the clear and ample signage located throughout the car park detailing the terms of use and payment requirements. As such, the PCN was issued correctly. We respectfully request that POPLA dismiss the appeal and uphold the PCN, as the evidence provided supports our position. Enclosed with this statement are the Enforcement Agreement, the Signage Plan, photographs of the signage, ANPR entry and exit records, payment system logs, the motorist's appeal, our appeal decision and a copy of the NTK for your review."

The [Insert Car Park Name] shows that they use a standard template."

There's a 41-page pdf attached, almost entirely focussed on demonstrating the quality and density of the signeage on site. It also addresses the contractual relationship with the landlord. There's nothing really about PoFA compliance except a few lines:

"After obtaining the keeper details from the DVLA using the KADOE service, a Parking Charge Notice
(PCN) was issued on 24-12-2024 via post. In line with the BPA Code of Practice paragraph 21.4a, a
notice sent by post is presumed, unless the contrary is proved, to have been delivered and so "given"
on the second working day after the day on which it is posted.
The letter issued (attached) meet the requirements of PoFA 2012, schedule 4, paragraph 9.
Given this, as the appellant has failed to provide the full name and address for the Driver, we are
exercising our right to recover the unpaid parking charge from the appellant as the Keeper.
"

I now have 7 days to post comments.

Re: Parkmaven NtK and unsuccessful appeal
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Does their evidence pack contain their agreement with the landowner? If so, please show us those pages, unredacted.

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Re: Parkmaven NtK and unsuccessful appeal
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It seems Parkmaven is busy listing the provisions of PoFA and the code of practice they comply rahter than addressing the on-compliances raised in the appeal.
Also, they refer to the BPA code, not PPSCoP.

Re: Parkmaven NtK and unsuccessful appeal
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Is the agreement they’ve shown, signed and dated? Can you host the documents they’ve sent and provide a link to them?
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Parkmaven NtK and unsuccessful appeal
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Hello,

These were screenshots so no signature save for one.
Here's a link to the pdf: Evidence pack

Re: Parkmaven NtK and unsuccessful appeal
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Copy and paste the following response to the operators evidence into the POPLA webform. I tis under the 10,000 character limit and points out ParkMavens failure to rebut your appeal points and highlights the flaws in their evidence:

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The operator has completely failed to address the first point raised in my POPLA appeal regarding the contradiction in payment deadlines within the NtK. This is a fundamental issue, as the inconsistency highlights a failure to comply with PoFA.

The front of the NtK states the payment deadline is 28 days from the issue date, setting it to 21/01/2025. However, PoFA 9(2)(f) requires the 28-day period to begin from the day after the notice is given, which in this case would be 30/12/2024. The correct deadline is therefore 27/01/2025. The back of the NtK appears to follow the correct timeframe, creating a direct contradiction within the document.

This contradiction is misleading and legally significant. It can confuse the recipient and potentially shorten their legal rights under PoFA. PoFA requires clarity in all mandatory information provided in the NtK, and the operator’s failure to provide this undermines their claim.

The operator has not addressed this issue in their evidence pack. If they believed their NtK was compliant, they would have rebutted this argument and justified the wording. Their silence on this point indicates they have no valid defense. POPLA should treat their failure to engage with this issue as a concession that their NtK does not comply with PoFA, and that keeper liability cannot be enforced.

The operator has also failed to respond to the second key point raised in my POPLA appeal regarding the failure of their NtK to comply with PoFA, specifically the lack of a clear invitation to the keeper to pay, as required under PoFA 9(2)(e)(i).

PoFA requires that a NtK must clearly and explicitly invite the keeper to either pay the charge or provide the name and address of the driver. This is a legal requirement, not an optional inclusion. The operator cannot rely on implied obligation—the wording must be clear and unambiguous.

ParkMaven’s NtK states that the driver is required to pay the charge and tells the keeper to provide the driver’s details if they were not the driver. However, there is no legal obligation on the keeper to identify the driver.

PoFA 9(2)(e)(i) specifically requires the NtK to invite the keeper to pay the charge. It does not attach any conditions to that invitation, such as stating that the keeper must have been the driver. However, this NtK only explains what happens if the keeper was not the driver, without a direct invitation for the keeper to pay. This omission makes the NtK non-compliant with PoFA, meaning the operator cannot transfer liability to the keeper.

My appeal pointed out that ParkMaven’s NtK fails to include this required invitation. Rather than addressing this clear legal failure, the operator has entirely ignored the issue in their evidence pack. If ParkMaven believed their NtK was compliant, they would have provided direct evidence that their notice contains the required wording. Their silence on this point confirms that their NtK does not comply with PoFA.

The burden of proof lies with the operator to demonstrate that they have met all the necessary conditions to hold the keeper liable under PoFA. PoFA does not offer a selection of requirements from which an operator may pick and choose; it is a strict statutory framework that demands full compliance with every requirement set out in the Act. Partial compliance does not satisfy PoFA, and as a result, the keeper cannot be held liable.

The operator was required to provide strict proof that their NtK fully complies with all the requirements of PoFA, allowing them to lawfully transfer liability to the registered keeper. As already demonstrated, their NtK fails to meet the statutory requirements in several key areas. It does not correctly specify the statutory 28-day period for payment, as required under Paragraph 9(2)(f), and it also fails to include the mandatory invitation for the keeper to pay the charge, as required under Paragraph 9(2)(e)(i). Since full compliance with PoFA is an absolute requirement for transferring liability, these failures render the NtK non-compliant, and liability cannot pass to the keeper.

Furthermore, if the operator wished to hold the registered keeper liable, they were required to provide strict proof that the person they are pursuing was, in fact, the driver on the date of the alleged contravention. The law does not allow inference that the registered keeper was the driver, and the burden rests entirely on the operator to provide evidence proving this. In VCS v Edward [2023], the court ruled that an operator must provide sufficient evidence to prove that the registered keeper and the driver are the same person. The operator has failed to provide any such evidence in their response pack.

The operator’s failure to rebut the specific PoFA non-compliance issues raised in my appeal, coupled with their failure to provide strict proof of the driver’s identity, means they have no lawful basis to pursue me, the keeper, for this charge. The absence of any meaningful response to these fundamental legal failures should be taken as a concession that their case is without merit. The appeal must be upheld, and the PCN must be cancelled.

The operator has completely failed to address Point 4 of my appeal, which highlights their clear breach of the PPSCoP. Instead of responding to this fundamental issue, they have remained silent, failing to justify or explain their non-compliance.

The NtK misleads by instructing to pay or appeal by 21/01/2025. However, under the PPSCoP, specifically Section 8.1.2(e) and Note 2, the correct appeal deadline is 27/01/2025, which is 28 days from the deemed receipt date of 30/12/2024. The PPSCoP makes it clear that a NtK sent by post is presumed to be delivered on the second working day after posting unless proven otherwise. By setting an incorrect deadline, the operator misrepresents the keeper’s rights and misleads them into believing they have less time to appeal than they actually do.

The operator’s failure to respond to this point means they implicitly accept that their NtK contains misleading information. They have not provided any explanation or justification for their failure to comply with the PPSCoP, nor have they attempted to correct the misrepresentation. Their silence on this matter should be taken as an admission that their demand was inaccurate and misleading.

Under POPLA’s own appeal assessment principles, if an appellant raises a valid challenge and the operator does not respond to it, the appeal must be upheld. The burden of proof lies with the operator to demonstrate compliance with the CoP and fairness in their communications. Their failure to do so means they have not discharged that burden, and the appeal should be allowed.

As this appeal point remains uncontested, the misleading NtK alone is sufficient to invalidate the PCN.

The operator has also failed to respond to my 5th appeal point regarding their misleading appeal rejection, which incorrectly referenced the outdated BPA CoP instead of the PPSCoP, which has been in force since October 2024. Rather than addressing this issue, they have remained silent, failing to justify their use of obsolete guidance.

The burden of proof is on the operator to demonstrate compliance with the relevant regulations. Their failure to respond suggests that they accept that their appeal rejection was based on an outdated and irrelevant CoP. The reference to §23.12 of the BPA CoP has no bearing on this case because the PPSCoP now governs all private parking operators. ParkMaven has not explained why they relied on an obsolete document rather than the correct and current PPSCoP.

The operator also failed to justify their misleading statement regarding Keeper liability. Their appeal rejection states that "if the keeper refuses to name the driver, we reserve the right to request payment from the keeper of the vehicle." This statement is incorrect and misleading because their NtK does not comply with PoFA, meaning they cannot transfer liability to the Keeper. The operator has provided no explanation or justification for making this false claim.

POPLA’s assessment must be based on the evidence presented. Since the operator has not refuted this key point, it remains unchallenged and uncontested. ParkMaven’s failure to adhere to the correct CoP and their misrepresentation of liability should be grounds to uphold this appeal. Given that this issue was raised in my appeal and ignored by the operator, I request that POPLA rule in my favour due to the operator’s failure to provide a legally compliant rejection and their misleading statements regarding Keeper liability.

I also challenged the operator to provide strict proof of landowner authority by means of a contemporaneous, unredacted contract showing their right to issue and enforce parking charges on the land in their own name. The operator has failed to do so, instead submitting contradictory submissions that raise serious concerns about the authenticity of their evidence.

The operator submitted an unsigned and undated witness statement, claiming that the Enforcement Agreement is confidential and "cannot be made public." However, they have provided the actual Enforcement Agreement, despite stating it could not be disclosed. This inconsistency suggests the operator may be fabricating or manipulating documents in an attempt to mislead the POPLA assessor.

The document provided as the Enforcement Agreement is not signed by the operator. The landowner or agent has only electronically signed it, with no mention of their position to verify their authority. The agreement allegedly started on 04/09/2023 and lasts for 4 years, yet the only signature is dated 27/02/2024—five months after the agreement allegedly came into force. This raises doubts about whether this agreement existed before the date of the signature. A properly executed contract would not contain such flaws, and without verified signatories, this document has no evidential value.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Parkmaven NtK and unsuccessful appeal
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ParkMaven has not explained why they relied on an obsolete document rather than the correct and current PPSCoP.
Even more than that - they've doubled down and continued to reference the BPA Code of Practice in their evidence pack.

Re: Parkmaven NtK and unsuccessful appeal
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OK but I read on the BPA website on their PPSCoP page: "The Code permits a period of transition where ATA members will be required to meet the new standards in full by December 2026.". Only clause 17 applies from Oct 2024.

Re: Parkmaven NtK and unsuccessful appeal
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Only clause 17 applies from Oct 2024.
Where have you read that?

The BPA outlines that all aspects of the code must be complied with now, except for signage or other related clauses applicable to existing sites (source: https://www.britishparking.co.uk/Code-of-Practice-and-Compliance-Monitoring)


Re: Parkmaven NtK and unsuccessful appeal
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Everything except signs in existing car parks must fully comply with all the requirements of the PPSCoP from October 2024. The signage compliance is required for all new car parks from October 2024.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain