Author Topic: ParkMaven Limited - Overstayed authorised parking session - Premier Inn London Gatwick, Fleming Way  (Read 507 times)

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Hi there!

Looking for some advice as to how best to approach this PCN I received as the keeper of the vehicle.

On 19th July, the driver entered the car park, found a parking space, parked up and entered the premises and proceeded to check-in, unload the car, go up to the room, etc. The driver didn't realise until the morning of departure (20th July) that they needed to pay for parking upon arrival: the signage in the car park was poorly lit and the signage inside the premises was tucked around to the left and out of eyeshot when the primary focus is checking in - for which the kiosks were straight ahead. On the morning of departure, the driver did pay for parking (albeit only 15 minutes) to show reasonableness in attempting to correct the mistake prior to leaving, rather than leaving without paying at all.

It's worth noting that I'm not one to skip paying for parking where I know I need to pay, both as the driver and the registered keeper of the vehicle.

I've attached a scan of the PCN with personal details omitted, for reference.

Final note, I am opening to paying the £60 reduced fee if people think it's not worth contesting.

Thanks in advance!

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Plan A should be to contact Premier Inn and ask them to get it cancelled - offering to pay the required parking fee as the driver was a genuine customer.  How much was paid / vs the overnight fee?

The PCN is arguably not fully compliant with POFA, there being no 'invitation' to pay or name the driver.  This will never get anywhere with the parking co, but might work at POPLA (esp as this was a genuine customer).  Otherwise you would have to wait for a court claim and defend it there with help from here - which is almost always successful.

Paying is always an option, and your choice, but not generally the one supported here!

Edit - removed the incorrect bit about the inviation - I was reading the second page where it says 'you should' and totally missed the obvious bit!
« Last Edit: July 30, 2025, 10:46:34 am by RichardW »

The invitation and to name the driver are there in the third paragraph.

The premier Inn location might well be on the Airport Land, and if so it is not private land and would be considered to be covered by bylaws.

Oops...now updated  ;D

Don't believe this will be on the airport grounds as it appears to be well to the South, but you never know!

Oops...now updated  ;D

Don't believe this will be on the airport grounds as it appears to be well to the South, but you never know!
https://www.gatwickairport.com/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-Gatwick-Library/default/dw5fa1fcde/images/Corporate-PDFs/Masterplan/Gatwick_Airport_Masterplan_2019.pdf PLAN 4 page 159 shows a map and, no, it appears that Fleming Way is a E-W road to the south of the airport limits.

https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/parking-kfc-gatwick-met-parking-services/msg41679/#msg41679 contains a copy of the map also.

I now the location very well and have stayed many nights in that Premier Inn. It is NOT on airport land and is therefore relevant land for the purposes of PoFA.

There never used to be a parking fee for registered guests and all you had to do was input your VRM into a pad or if parking was not included, you paid for it at the time of booking and when you checked in, you provided your VRM. It may have changed since, as this was over 5 years ago.

The NtK is PoFA compliant and so whether the driver is identified or not, the Keeper can be held liable.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

On the morning of departure, the driver did pay for parking (albeit only 15 minutes) to show reasonableness in attempting to correct the mistake prior to leaving, rather than leaving without paying at all.
This part of the opening post stands out to me - is there a reason that the driver only paid for 15 minutes, rather than a tariff that matched the length of time they had stayed?

Hi everyone!

Thanks for all the replies and the assistance so far. I didn't realise the hotel would be able to do anything their end, but I called Premier Inn as advised and they're going to cancel it (thanks @RichardW for the advice)! Judging by the tone of the person I got through to, this isn't the first time they've had complaints about PCNs...

To answer a couple of questions posed in the replies:

There never used to be a parking fee for registered guests

Unfortunately, they've changed from a barrier/ticket system quite recently and you just drive in and pay at a kiosk inside. No opportunity to input your VRN on the booking so it seems this is the only way to attain parking now.

is there a reason that the driver only paid for 15 minutes

There wasn't an option to pay for prior arrival, only pay from now until you plan to depart. Bit cheeky if you ask me as it's an easy money grab if you leave earlier than expected or depart later than expected!

Again, thank you all for the advice - much appreciated!

The PPSCoP was changed recently so that as long as payment for the period of parking was made, irrespective of whether that was on entry or exit, no PCN should be issued. I reckon they just went after you because you only paid for 15 min parking instead of whatever the tariff should have been.

However, if you only have the cancellation promise by phone, you will need to get some written confirmation of this as you will not be the first person where they are suddenly surprised, several months down the road, when they start receiving debt recovery letters or a Letter of Claim (LoC), because whoever you spoke ti was then distracted and forgot to actually do the cancellation deed.
« Last Edit: July 30, 2025, 03:44:21 pm by b789 »
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Interesting, I guess they rely on people not being 'up-to-speed' on legislature changes.

I was told to send an email with the PCN attached and they'd cancel it from there, so just started a written chain and also requested that they reply once the PCN is cancelled. I wouldn't be surprised if ParkMaven still try to chase me for the monies owed, but at least I'll have the email chain to prove.

Thanks!