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G24 - PCN for overstaying 10 minutes and 22 seconds
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Anyway to challenge or get a successful appeal outcome for this? Parking limit was for 120 minutes, generally 10 minutes extra is allowed, in total the vehicle was for 130 minutes and 22 seconds.

This is after valid purchases were made and no abuse of parking land. Driver went back to store manager from where driver made purchases, store manager was not helpful. Driver just did not realise that the time limit in the same parking had changed to 2 hours in February from 3 hours before February. So kept shopping. Multiple receipts attached to show the shopping made by the driver

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The BPA/IPC Private Parking Single Code of Practice (PPSCoP) section 3.4 states:

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Material changes – notices

Where there is any material change to any pre-existing terms and conditions that would not be immediately apparent to a driver entering controlled land that is or has been open for public parking, the parking operator must place additional (temporary) notices at the site entrance for a period of not less than 4 months from the date of the change making it clear that new terms and conditions/charges apply, such that regular visitors who might be familiar with the old terms do not inadvertently incur parking charges.

So, have G24 complied with that? Are there additional signs notifying that there has been a material change in the parking terms & conditions?

If this is a retail park, I tis no good going to the retail shops. The Keeper needs to find out who the landowner or their agent is that manages the land. Usually, there will be some info on the advertising plinth.

However, as this is an IPC member, no appeal is going to succeed. It will only conclude after they issue a claim and it is defended. Are you willing to go all the way with this?
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Registered keeper checked with the store staff who said that the parking limits changed from 3 hours to 2 hours in February. There are no signs for material changes inside the retail park or the entrances.

Additionally there are no signs of time limit at the entrance as well. Photos attached,

How does the keeper establish when the time limit was changed, is there any way?

Keeper has found the managing agent and have escalated them to resolve. Waiting for a final response back from the property agent.

Finally; if the keeper goes all the way to fight it, is it likely that the keeper will win the case? Keeper also has legal insurance if need be.

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If the retail park management can't get it cancelled, then it is most likely going to go all the way to a county court claim which will have a very good chance of being successful, most likely due to the claim either being struck out or discontinued.
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Quote from: b789 on April 23, 2025, 06:28:20 pm
If the retail park management can't get it cancelled, then it is most likely going to go all the way to a county court claim which will have a very good chance of being successful, most likely due to the claim either being struck out or discontinued.

Thank you so much. Thanks to you. The PCN got cancelled by the property management agents!
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Excellent - do you have the contact details you used to reach out to them? We sometimes see the same sites cropping up in multiple cases, so it may be of use to a future forum user.
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I went back to the site to take this picture to contact them - their number is 02077276200

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