Author Topic: Parking Charge Notice in Lidl car park (not owned by Lidl). Shop delayed due to breastfeeding baby.  (Read 582 times)

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Hi All,

My partner, 4-week-old baby son and I went to Lidl to do our weekly shop. Baby needed feeding which delayed shop. There was also a significant queue (probably around 4 min long but that's not so unusual).

- Arrived and spent maybe around 45 mins feeding and changing baby.
- Started doing shopping.
- Finished shop but was 16 mins over the 90 minute max time.

Is the breastfeeding a mitigating circumstance here? Is it not discriminatory to allow a shorter period of time for breastfeeding mothers? Or does it become irrelevant if the breastfeeding and first and the shopping is done second?

Should I simply try to appeal this using the above reasoning and hope for the best? Is there a chance with POPLA?

Any thoughts and advice greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Photos of PCN below. I do not have a photo of the signage but from memory nothing was obscuring it and it stated clearly the 90 minute maximum parking time. You can see a blurry version on google maps.

Google maps of location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/RoB8zUjTkL2SfLR29


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Additionally, my son suffers from a medical condition that means he needs to breastfeed more often and longer than other babies. In case that's useful.

A good first step would be to speak to the management of the Lidl (escalating as needed) and asking them to intervene. This can be done without telling them who was driving. Anecdotally, supermarkets have a decent amount of sway to get charges cancelled for genuine customers, and this will be by far the easiest way to resolve the matter.

You say in the thread title that the car park is not owned by Lidl. Is the car park shared with other stores, like a retail park? The fact that Lidl may not own the car park, is not the issue. It is who contracted ParkingEye to operate the parking there.

Do you have a receipt or evidence of any Lidl purchases on the day? Plan A is to always try and get Lidl to get the PCN cancelled. If you tried and were robed off by some lowly customer service bod, then aim as high up the management food chain as you can go, starting with the CEO, Ryan McDonnell.

Email him at ryan.mcdonnell@lidl.co.uk and explain the situation and tell him how you are unhappy with being charged £100 by a third party simply for being a valued customer and that they should get their contracted parking operator to cancel the PCN.

Include evidence of being a customer that day.

Don't appeal to ParkingEye until you've heard back from your complaint to Ryan McDonnell. If you've not heard anything back by Tuesday 8th July, then just follow this advice to send an appeal to ParkingEye:

There is no legal obligation on the known keeper (the recipient of the Notice to Keeper (NtK)) to reveal the identity of the unknown driver and no inference or assumptions can be made.

The NtK is not compliant with all the requirements of PoFA which means that if the unknown driver is not identified, they cannot transfer liability for the charge from the unknown driver to the known keeper.

Use the following as your appeal. No need to embellish or remove anything from it:

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I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your 'parking charge'. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner.

As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with ALL the requirements of PoFA 2012, you are unable to hold the keeper of the vehicle liable for the charge. Partial or even substantial compliance is not sufficient. There will be no admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumptions can be drawn. ParkingEye has relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver only.

The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable. ParkingEye have no hope at POPLA, so you are urged to save us both a complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.

This will give more time for Lidl to respond. Any initial appeal will be rejected, no matron what grounds. In this case, ParkingEye will write back as king for the drivers details, which you can ignore and eventually they will reject the appeal and give you a POPLA code where you can appeal with all the information you provided and the Equality Act 2010.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

You say in the thread title that the car park is not owned by Lidl. Is the car park shared with other stores, like a retail park? The fact that Lidl may not own the car park, is not the issue. It is who contracted ParkingEye to operate the parking there.

It is not a retail park. It is just one Lidl store and the manager I spoke to on the day about the parking said that they rent the land from another company. He said there was nothing he could do about a potential fine but he's likely to say that whether true or not.

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Do you have a receipt or evidence of any Lidl purchases on the day? Plan A is to always try and get Lidl to get the PCN cancelled. If you tried and were robed off by some lowly customer service bod, then aim as high up the management food chain as you can go, starting with the CEO, Ryan McDonnell.

I have digital receipts yes, on the Lidl app.

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Don't appeal to ParkingEye until you've heard back from your complaint to Ryan McDonnell. If you've not heard anything back by Tuesday 8th July, then just follow this advice to send an appeal to ParkingEye:

Isn't it safer to appeal before the end of the 14 day window so as to still have the option of paying the discounted charge?
Is the date of issue really 10/06/2025 when I only received the letter today?

I will otherwise, do as you say and email Ryan McDonnell now.

Thank you both for your advice so far.

Isn't it safer to appeal before the end of the 14 day window so as to still have the option of paying the discounted charge?
Only if you intend to pay. Any appeal will almost certainly be rejected, because they don't make any money from accepting appeals. If you're intending to challenge it, you should be prepared to challenge it 'all the way'.


Lidl have agreed to cancel the PCN after I contacted both customer support and CEO 🎉. Contacted them on 17th June and they agreed to cancel by 19th June. So only took about 48 hours for them to agree to it which in my experience is fast.

One reminder letter from Parkingeye a few days ago but assume that's just a delay in processing/postage.

Thank you everyone for your help. Hopefully that marks the end of the matter.
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