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No PCN received (Apcoa) but have received letter from ZZPS debt collectors
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Hi,

Back in August my car went to brockenhurst train station to collect someone who's train kept getting delayed.

Parking was never paid for due to the 30 minute grace period allowed to collect someone, however, due to train delays these 30 minutes must've been exceeded.

I've now received the letter attached from ZZPS on behalf of APCOA Parking for an unpaid parking ticket. However, I never received any of the PCNs for parking without a ticket. The address for my car is correct since I've received PCN's since this car was purchased. I'm just wondering what my options are as I'm seeing alot of different responses to what the correct course of action is.

Due to currently being a long way away from the train station I can't get a photo of the car park signage to understand wether they meet the requirements.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated



EDIT: The image won't attatch correctly so here's a direct https://imgur.com/a/D6Sp7wV
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Re: No PCN received (Apcoa) but have received letter from ZZPS debt collectors
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Ignore ZZPS. File their letter but do not respond.

As you'll see from the letter, APCOA are seeking to pursue this as a breach of railway byelaws. Such a breach is a criminal matter for which the recourse would be prosecution in the magistrates court. The problem for APCOA is that if they prosecuted you in the magistrates court, any fine would go to the treasury, not APCOA.

As such, they have absolutely no desire to take the matter to court, as it would cost them time and money in return for nothing. Keep ignoring it.
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As above, ignore ZZPS. They are a useless debt collector and have no say in the matter.

APCOA have issued what they claim to be a Penalty Notice. However, it is not. It is a fraudulent attempt to persuade you to pay them, not the Train Operating Company (TOC), some money and they promise not to initiate a private criminal prosecution in the magistrates court.

APCOA have never prosecuted anyone in the magistrates court for a breach of a TOCs bylaws. They never will because they know that their fraud will be exposed. I have an investigative journalist from a major broadsheet investigating this long running fraud.

Just carry on ignoring the debt collectors. It will time out after 6 months anyway. APCOA will not litigate this. I would stake £1,000 on that if anyone would care to take up the bet.
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Quote from: DWMB2 on October 22, 2024, 03:12:47 pm
Ignore ZZPS. File their letter but do not respond.

As you'll see from the letter, APCOA are seeking to pursue this as a breach of railway byelaws. Such a breach is a criminal matter for which the recourse would be prosecution in the magistrates court. The problem for APCOA is that if they prosecuted you in the magistrates court, any fine would go to the treasury, not APCOA.

As such, they have absolutely no desire to take the matter to court, as it would cost them time and money in return for nothing. Keep ignoring it.
Quote from: b789 on October 22, 2024, 04:29:32 pm
As above, ignore ZZPS. They are a useless debt collector and have no say in the matter.

APCOA have issued what they claim to be a Penalty Notice. However, it is not. It is a fraudulent attempt to persuade you to pay them, not the Train Operating Company (TOC), some money and they promise not to initiate a private criminal prosecution in the magistrates court.

APCOA have never prosecuted anyone in the magistrates court for a breach of a TOCs bylaws. They never will because they know that their fraud will be exposed. I have an investigative journalist from a major broadsheet investigating this long running fraud.

Just carry on ignoring the debt collectors. It will time out after 6 months anyway. APCOA will not litigate this. I would stake £1,000 on that if anyone would care to take up the bet.


Thank you for the help guys! Will make some good scrap paper to write shopping lists on!
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