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Re: One Parking Solutions PCN-failure to park in a marked bay-NtK Hertfordshire
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Hi b789,

Thank you again.

We will send this via email and again attach the PDF Letter of appeal to IAS which has and is ended with the Keepers full title, first name and surname.

The only difference in name is the email address which is not the keepers name.

The original IAS appeal and OPS appeals have all been sent via this email address and both have responded to it by attaching letters addressed to the registered Keepers Name.

No Driver details have ever been disclosed.

When we submitted the IAS Appeal on they're website, we even selected they're option of a "Nominate Representative" and detailed in they're submission box the email address as a Contact email for the Keeper in relation to the Appeal.

Should we try again putting the appeal back through IAS web page?

Re: One Parking Solutions PCN-failure to park in a marked bay-NtK Hertfordshire
« Reply #31 on: »
I have no idea why you selected “Nominated Representative” as that has obviously caused the problem here. You were told to simply appeal ONLY as the Keeper. There was no need to confuse the issue by appealing only as the Keeper and then nominating the same person as a nominated representative.

The email address it is sent from has no bearing on anything whatsoever. If you use a disposable email address or a “hide my email” address, why should that matter? It’s like saying you posted something from a specific post box or post office as though it makes any difference to the issue. It doesn’t.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: One Parking Solutions PCN-failure to park in a marked bay-NtK Hertfordshire
« Reply #32 on: »
If they're affording you the opportunity to put the appeal back in, but this time without the 'Nominated representative' issue, then I'd do so.

Re: One Parking Solutions PCN-failure to park in a marked bay-NtK Hertfordshire
« Reply #33 on: »
If they're affording you the opportunity to put the appeal back in, but this time without the 'Nominated representative' issue, then I'd do so.

Thank you both.

We've sent b789's letter to IAS in the body of a reply email, and kept a copy of it with the registered keepers title, 1st name and surname, and added a PDF copy of the appeal Letter as an attachment.

Can't make it any clearer to them.

We put the keepers title this time because the email address is a female name and OPS & IAS may be trying to "assume" that this may be the driver??? which is totally incorrect as they were not in the country at the time and has the passport stamps as evidence.

Its been submitted on they're site, emailed to them a couple of times now, and needs to be addressed.

We also have copies of they're automated reply stating "Nominated Representative"
which they're websites offer. We only used this method as the email address given is monitored regularly ready to respond.

The IAS Appeal Letter is 1787 word count which doesn't fit into they're 1000 word box,  so has to be added as a PDF, then it just buffers and doesn't send.

You also have to set up & register an "account" with IAS to be able to log in and to submit the appeal which has been set up with the female email address.
« Last Edit: December 18, 2025, 11:00:29 am by Bella54 »

Re: One Parking Solutions PCN-failure to park in a marked bay-NtK Hertfordshire
« Reply #34 on: »
The email address it is sent from has no bearing on anything whatsoever. If you use a disposable email address or a “hide my email” address, why should that matter? It’s like saying you posted something from a specific post box or post office as though it makes any difference to the issue. It doesn’t.

Not sure which bit of this explanation is not clear. The email address used is totally irrelevant to anything.

It’s only the IAS so don’t worry too much absolutely anything not being submitted. Keep screenshots of any error messages or spinning balls of death.

They make it deliberately difficult to respond to anything and is just more evidence of the corrupt nature of the firms owners.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Just an update on the issue.

We've had another email in response to the last one we sent with B789 letter, just saying much the same as before.

Think the issue is that the IAS website wants an "account" set up in the NTK name, then offers the option to "Nominate a representative" which we did, yet they're still not acknowledging the Appeal even if its sent to them via email or as an attachment on they're site and they don't actually "re-set" the original account details as they say they have, and once sent to OPS, they reject it because they see an different name on the Appeal contact because the IAS account shows the representatives name instead of the Keepers.  ;D

The IAS then just email us back again extending the time to Appeal again on they're site, this time we have till 14th January to submit the appeal on they're website.

They maybe just using the "register account" to farm peoples personal details??

Either way, we've just replied via email stating that they're online portal is not disabled friendly and requesting a "Reasonable Adjustment Request" to allow the Appeal Letter as PDF attached to the email yet again, (cant post it into they're word count box anyway)

They clearly seem stuck on making this as difficult and confusing as possible.

Do we now just wait for a threatening CCJ or bailiff's letter??






They've now sent us some forms to complete, sign and scan in to send back to them via email  ::) so we'll see if sending them these forms & the Appeal Letter again will get them moving.

This is the last interaction we're prepared to do for the IAS stage.  :o


Hi...Just an update,

Finally heard back from IAS, OPS has responded to them with all the documents and IAS is offering us the opportunity to add any further evidence on an IAS-3 form, but interesting they've not provided a date to respond by...???

Can anyone let us know what the next step is in this process please?

Dear XXXXXXXX

You have chosen to use the postal system for the service and receipt of documents during your appeal to the Independent Appeals Service.
 
The Operator has now uploaded their representations and/or any evidence upon which they wish to rely and this can be found below and the enclosed documents.
 
What Do I need to Do Now?
 
You do not need to do anything further; this information is provided to you for information only.  If you wish to add any further evidence to support your appeal please forward the completed IAS-3 Further Iterations Form (enclosed) and any other information to reach us by, otherwise we will process the appeal with the correspondence you have already supplied.

The operator reported that...
The appellant was the keeper.
The operator is seeking keeper liability in accordance with PoFA..
ANPR/CCTV was used.
The Notice to Keeper was sent on 05/11/2025.
A response was received from the Notice to Keeper.
The ticket was issued on 01/11/2025.
The Notice to Keeper (ANPR) was sent in accordance with PoFA.
The charge is based in Contract.

The operator made the following comments...
We note the appellants comments however, It do not exempt them from the from the terms and conditions of the site. We are instructed by the freehold landowner to enforce parking on site in accordance with the displayed term. It is the motorists responsibility to ensure that when parking on private land that they review the terms and conditions and park accordingly. The displayed terms state that all vehicles must be parked wholly within the confines of a marked bay at all times.

The contravention photos provided show that the driver parked on site out of a marked bay on double yellow lines and proceeded to walk off site; returning after a period of time and proceeding to leave. Therefore the appellant has parked and made use of the land. The IPC code of practise define parked as a vehicle being stationary other than in the course of driving. A consideration period is afforded to motorists to review the terms on site; this however is not a period of free parking to make use of the land. By making use of the land the appellant has accepted the terms and is no longer afforded a consideration period.

All notices are sent POFA compliant. The Notice to Keeper contains all the pertinent details as required by POFA and was sent within the correct timeframe and therefore the appellant can be held liable as the registered keeper.

The site and signage has been audited by the IPC and therefore the site is deemed as complaint with the signage prominent enough to bring the terms of parking to the attention of motorists.

By failing to park within the confines of a marked bay and making use of the land the appellant is in direct contravention to the displayed terms and conditions and therefore contractually agrees to pay a parking charge.


Yours Sincerely,
 

The Independent Appeals Service
Independent Appeals Service
PO Box 662, Macclesfield, SK10 9NR

Re: One Parking Solutions PCN-failure to park in a marked bay-NtK Hertfordshire
« Reply #38 on: »
Morning all

We've had an email response from IAS on Thursday 26th Feb so are posting it here for collective thoughts on what the next step is? but please hold your tummy's and bladder's whilst reading as it made laugh uncontrollably.  ;D

Think we're now about to embark on the "threatening bailiff and fake CCJ" stage?


Appeal Outcome: Dismissed

The Adjudicators comments are as follows:

"The Appellant should understand that the Adjudicator is not in a position to give legal advice to either of the parties but they are entitled to seek their own independent legal advice. The Adjudicator's role is to consider whether or not the parking charge has a basis in law and was properly issued in the circumstances of each individual case.

In all Appeals the Adjudicator is bound by the relevant law applicable at the time and is only able to consider legal challenges and not factual mistakes nor extenuating or mitigating circumstances. Throughout this appeal the Operator has had the opportunity consider all points raised and could have conceded the appeal at any stage. The Adjudicator who deals with this Appeal is legally qualified and each case is dealt with according to their understanding of the law as it applies and the legal principles involved. A decision by an Adjudicator is not legally binding on an Appellant who is entitled to seek their own legal advice if they so wish.

The Appellant's vehicle has been recorded as parking on private land where the signage clearly states that parking must be in a marked bay. The Appellant's vehicle is parked on double yellow lines outside of a marked bay.
The Notice to Keeper is POFA compliant and gives all the relevant details required and is served within the required time frame. The Appellant is being held liable as the keeper.

There is a consideration period allowed for motorists to read the signage and decide if they are able to comply with the terms, but once the driver leaves the vehicle and makes use of the site that consideration period ends as the driver is deemed to have accepted the terms.

Having considered all the relevant issues raised and the evidence submitted, I am satisfied that the Appellant should have seen the prominent signage, the Appellant chose to ignore the terms, and the operator has established that the Parking Charge was properly issued.
This appeal therefore has to be dismissed. "


As your appeal has been dismissed, the Independent Adjudicator has found, upon the evidence provided, that the parking charge was lawfully incurred.

As this appeal has not been resolved in your favour, the IAS is unable to intervene further in this matter.

You should contact the operator within 28 days to make payment of the charge.

Should you continue to contest the charge then you should consider obtaining independent legal advice.

Yours sincerely,


The Independent Appeals Service
Independent Appeals Service
PO Box 662, Macclesfield, SK10 9NR
w: www.theias.org
 




Re: One Parking Solutions PCN-failure to park in a marked bay-NtK Hertfordshire
« Reply #39 on: »
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Think we're now about to embark on the "threatening bailiff and fake CCJ" stage?
The debt collector stage is the next one, yes.

I'm not entirely sure what you mean when you refer to "fake CCJ" - these companies do obtain real CCJs, from people ignoring court claims, or losing in court and then not paying up. No risk of that if you follow the process.

Re: One Parking Solutions PCN-failure to park in a marked bay-NtK Hertfordshire
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Think we're now about to embark on the "threatening bailiff and fake CCJ" stage?



Exactly as the first line of post #2

(i) appeal
(ii) rejection
(iii) IAS appeal
(iv) IAS rejection
(v) multiple debt recovery letters (ignore)
(vi) Letter of Claim (LoC) (MUST respond to)
(vii) county court claim (defend)
(viii) wait for strike out or discontinuation

It's a well-trodden path  :)

Re: One Parking Solutions PCN-failure to park in a marked bay-NtK Hertfordshire
« Reply #41 on: »
We can't guarantee a strike out or discontinuation, of course.

Re: One Parking Solutions PCN-failure to park in a marked bay-NtK Hertfordshire
« Reply #42 on: »
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Think we're now about to embark on the "threatening bailiff and fake CCJ" stage?
The debt collector stage is the next one, yes.

I'm not entirely sure what you mean when you refer to "fake CCJ" - these companies do obtain real CCJs, from people ignoring court claims, or losing in court and then not paying up. No risk of that if you follow the process.

Thank you DWMB2.

We've read up a lot on here and how this "can" end up in a court for an application for an effective CCJ, so we're totally committed to following the the processes here.

The key facts needs to be remembered in this case is that the "driver" has not been identified, so were not sure how "NO Keeper liability" plays out in an actual case that actually get into a court room?

Also given the facts of the the alleged contravention of period of parking that was observed by OPS was less that 1 minute!! 19:33:26 - 19:34:21 (54 seconds)

Will we need to go to the "mediation" stage also after the Debit collectors letters?
and are OPS court filing cost's still roughly £28? for them to have to pay to even get this into a court room?

Re: One Parking Solutions PCN-failure to park in a marked bay-NtK Hertfordshire
« Reply #43 on: »
Mediation is a mandatory step in the court process which precedes the requirement for the claimant to pay the court fee.

The claimant’s court fee of £28 is pretty irrelevant compared to the cost of paying for someone to travel to and attend your local court. They just choose to bail at this point (usually!).
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Re: One Parking Solutions PCN-failure to park in a marked bay-NtK Hertfordshire
« Reply #44 on: »
Mediation is a mandatory step in the court process which precedes the requirement for the claimant to pay the court fee.

The claimant’s court fee of £28 is pretty irrelevant compared to the cost of paying for someone to travel to and attend your local court. They just choose to bail at this point (usually!).

Thank you jfollows, so we can now just monitor our post and collect the Debt collection Management company's letters, and not respond (ignore) for the next few months

but Post back here once we receive an official Letter of Claim LOC from OPS solicitors, and fill in & send a defence of claim,

Attend the Mandatory Medication (usually attended online? Is this usually conducted on Microsoft Teams??

Ask for the name and professional title of OPS representative who should also be in attendance??

offer "£0.00" as a settlement offer??

If OPS representatives reject this offer, they then have to proceed the case to court and pay the filing fee of £28 and they're representatives cost and fees to attend a county court in our local area of the country?? (which is probably only financially worth them doing if there are multiple PCN against the vehicle/driver/Keeper??)
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