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You will get your own N180 to complete, but don’t use the paper version, send it online instead, let us know when. Mediation appointment at which you offer £0, it’s a box ticking exercise for someone. Allocation to your local court with a date plus a date by which the claimant has to pay the court fee, check on the day after with the court because they’ll often discontinue and sometimes fail to tell you. The end.

Thank you for pointing out the online option. I was surprised that they sent me their N180 but I guess it part of their scare tactics to create a faux legitimacy about this very dubious practice. I doubt they even read my Defence as they quite happily follow a business model based on threats and creating fear.

They are required to send you their N180, as are you to them for yours.
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Having received your own N180 (make sure it is not simply a copy of the claimants N180), do not use the paper form. Ignore all the other forms that came with it. you can discard those. Download your own here and fill it in on your computer. You sign it by simply typing your full name in the signature box.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/673341e779e9143625613543/N180_1124.pdf

Here are the answers to some of the less obvious questions:

• The name of the court is "Civil National Business Centre".

• To be completed by "Your full name" and you are the "Defendant".

• C1: "YES"

• D1: "NO". Reason: "I wish to question the Claimant about their evidence at a hearing in person and to expose omissions and any misleading or incorrect evidence or assertions.
Given the Claimant is a firm who complete cut & paste parking case paperwork for a living, having this case heard solely on papers would appear to put the Claimant at an unfair advantage, especially as they would no doubt prefer the Defendant not to have the opportunity to expose the issues in the Claimants template submissions or speak as the only true witness to events in question
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• F1: Whichever is your nearest county court. Use this to find it: https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/search-option

• F3: "1".

• Sign the form by simply typing your full name for the signature.

When you have completed the form, attach it to a single email addressed to both dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC in yourself. Make sure that the claim number is in the subject field of the email.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Ongoing support appreciated - online form sent as described.

Update - received an email today with a scheduled telephone mediation appointment within a three hour time window. I was expecting this to be another form filling exercise. Any guidance on how to approach the mediation would be appreciated.

Mediation is now mandatory in small claims - for non-parking cases it can probably help avoid some hearings, but in these cases it's basically useless. When it's your turn to speak, simply reaffirm that you stand by your defence, a copy of which has already been shared with the claimant, offer £0, and the call will be over pretty swiftly.

Thanks for the guidance. Looks like the process will drag out over a year for driving in to somewhere for 133 seconds. Something very wrong with the system

Respond with the following:

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Subject: Response to you Letter of Claim Ref: [reference number]

Dear Sirs,

Your Letter Before Claim contains insufficient detail and fails to provide copies of evidence your client relies upon. This is contrary to the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims, paragraphs 3.1(a)–(d), 5.1, and 5.2, as well as paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction. These provisions are not optional; they exist to facilitate informed discussion and proportionate resolution.

As a firm of supposed solicitors, one would expect you to be capable of crafting a letter that aligns with paragraphs 3.1(a)–(d), 5.1 and 5.2 of the Protocol, and paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction. These provisions do not exist for decoration—they exist to facilitate informed discussion and proportionate resolution. You might wish to reacquaint yourselves with them.

The Civil Procedure Rules 1998, Pre-Action Conduct and Protocols (Part 3), stipulate that prior to proceedings, parties should have exchanged sufficient information to understand each other’s position. Part 6 helpfully clarifies that this includes disclosure of key documents relevant to the issues in dispute.

Your template letter mentions a “contract”, yet fails to provide one. This would appear to undermine the only foundation upon which your client’s claim allegedly rests. It’s difficult to engage in meaningful pre-litigation dialogue when your side declines to furnish the very document it purports to enforce.

I confirm that, once I am in receipt of a Letter Before Claim that complies with the requirements of para 3.1 (a) of the Pre-Action Protocol, I shall then seek advice and submit a formal response within 30 days, as required by the Protocol. Thus, I require your client to comply with its obligations by sending me the following information/documents:

1. A copy of the original Notice to Keeper (NtK) that confirms any PoFA 2012 liability
2. A copy of the contract (or contracts) you allege exists between your client and the driver, in the form of an actual photograph of the sign you contend was at the location on the material date, not a generic stock image
3. The exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract(s) which is (are) relied upon that you allege to have been breached
4. The written agreement between your client and the landowner, establishing authority to enforce
5. A breakdown of the charges claimed, identifying whether the principal sum is claimed as consideration or damages, and whether the £70 “debt recovery” fee includes VAT

I am clearly entitled to this information under paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction. I also need it in order to comply with my own obligations under paragraph 6(b).

If your client does not provide me with this information then I put you on notice that I will be relying on the cases of Webb Resolutions Ltd v Waller Needham & Green [2012] EWHC 3529 (Ch), Daejan Investments Limited v The Park West Club Limited (Part 20) Buxton Associates [2003] EWHC 2872, Charles Church Developments Ltd v Stent Foundations Limited & Peter Dann Limited [2007] EWHC 855 in asking the court to impose sanctions on your client and to order a stay of the proceedings, pursuant to paragraphs 13, 15(b) and (c) and 16 of the Practice Direction, as referred to in paragraph 7.2 of the Protocol.

Until your client has complied with its obligations and provided this information, I am unable to respond properly to the alleged claim and to consider my position in relation to it, and it is entirely premature (and a waste of costs and court time) for your client to issue proceedings. Should your client do so, then I will seek an immediate stay pursuant to paragraph 15(b) of the Practice Direction and an order that this information is provided.

Yours faithfully,

[Your name]
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Is the response to: scmreferrals@justice.gov.uk

Thanks.

Good afternoon,

Approaching the end game with one after a pretty pointless telephone mediation. Please see the 'General Form of Judgement or Order' I have received. If I am correct, I need to send amended defence to the court and I Park Services by 27th November.
 
Guidance on the wording of this defence and delivery options would be much appreciated as ever.

https://postimg.cc/NLx9MxRf

Thank you in advance.


I am unable to see the image. Please try a different image hosting service. In the meantime, can you post the text of the order you have received?
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain


Your defence has been struck out.

What was the text of the defence which you submitted? Could you have submitted the letter of claim response by mistake?

My last action was the mediation phone call and the image attached was the last correspondence I have received.