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Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
« Reply #15 on: »
Good morning,

Thanks for your recomendation, I will follow your instructions, already got an email from : NoReply_SCMS_Confirmation@justice.gov.uk with a Mediation date, and a request for me to confirm with my phone number, copy bellow:

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Your telephone mediation appointment
Appointment date: 11/12/2025

Appointment time slot: 09:30 to 12:30

Your confidential telephone mediation appointment has been booked for the above date and time slot. The mediator may call at any point within your timeslot to start the appointment. Please be ready to accept a call at any point during your timeslot. Your appointment will last for around one hour from the point at which the mediator calls. The mediator will call from a withheld number. Make sure that withheld/private numbers are not blocked on your phone.

The mediator will call both parties separately – you will not talk directly to the other side. They will try to help you come to an agreement with the other party. If an agreement is reached at mediation the case will not need to progress to court.

Where your mediation appointment is mandatory, if you do not attend the appointment, the judge will take this into consideration at any court hearing and may issue a penalty. This could include the judge automatically ruling in the other party’s favour or ordering you to pay for some or all the other party’s costs.


What you need to do to prepare for your telephone appointment:
• ACTION:
The mediation service requires a contact number to conduct the appointment, please reply to scmreferrals@justice.gov.uk.

PLEASE MAKE SURE TO PROVIDE YOUR CASE/CLAIM NUMBER IN THE RESPONSE TO THE EMAIL.
If YOU will be attending the mediation appointment YOURSELF, please provide us with your full name and the best telephone number so the mediator is able to call you.
If you would like SOMEONE ELSE (like a trusted friend, relative or a solicitor) to attend on your behalf please fill out the attached delegation of authority to mediate form. Your representative must know the facts of the case, understand how far you’re willing to compromise and have full authority to act on your behalf. You’re legally bound to any settlement agreements your representative makes on your behalf.
Failure to provide contact details will result in your mediation appointment not taking place and will result in a Judge issuing a penalty where the mediation was mandatory.
If the mediator cannot contact you within 10 minutes of the appointment start, the appointment will be marked as not conducted and you may face a penalty for non-attendance.
Make sure you are in a suitable location for the appointment that is free from distractions. The mediator will cancel the appointment immediately if you are driving even if you are using a hands-free device.
The dates to avoid which you provided on your Directions Questionnaire were taken into account when booking your appointment. We are only able to re-book appointments in exceptional circumstances.
Please see attached documents for more information about what happens within your mediation appointment.
• Small Claims Mediation Service contact details
If you have any complaints or issues to raise about the Mediation Service, contact us by email or telephone:

Email:  scmreferrals@justice.gov.uk

Telephone: 0300 123 4593

Webchat: Chat with an agent

Monday to Friday, 9am to 5pm

We record our calls for monitoring and training as it helps improve the service we deliver. If you want to know more about how we handle your personal data, visit https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/your-data-and-how-we-use-it

If you want to make a complaint by email, clearly title your message as ‘complaint’ in the subject field. 

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What happend if after the mediation, they indeed take me to court, which chamces i got to win ? If I got to court this will affect my personal records ?  Do I need to worry ?

Thanks in advance for your kind help and support.

Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
« Reply #16 on: »
What do you mean "if they take me to court"? They have "taken you to court" in that they have issued a claim against you and you are now in the process of defending against that claim!

For the mediation call, the only requirement is for you "attend" the call. It is not part of the judicial process and no judge is involved.

This is what I advise you to say when you receive the call from the mediator:

Before I set out my position, please confirm from the claimant’s side:

• the full name of the person attending for them;
• their role/position at their legal representative’s firm; and
• whether they hold written authority to negotiate and settle today.

Please relay that back to me before we continue.

After the mediator calls back...

If identified and authority confirmed:

Thank you. I’m content to proceed on that basis. My settlement offer is £0, or I invite the claimant to discontinue with no order as to costs.

If no/unclear authority:

Please record that the claimant’s attendee has not confirmed settlement authority. My position remains that liability is denied and my offer is £0, subject to prompt approval by an authorised solicitor if they choose to discontinue.

If the mediator probes your defence:

In what capacity are you asking that question? Are you legally trained?  If not, please refrain from offering opinions. I will be reporting any attempt to do so as inappropriate.”

All you need to know is the name and the position of the person acting for the claimant and report that back to us. It will be over within minutes. Complete waste of time otherwise.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
« Reply #17 on: »
Thanks for your support, apologize for my lack of knowlege using the incorrect terms.
I am jus trying to understand the whole process, I do not understand why they decided to take me in the whole court process if the the odds of actually having to go to a hearing are slim to none... what's the benefit to do it all ? 
What is the purpose of the "Mediation" call, just trying to scare me and continue to push/try  until they to get money from me ? 

What are all the scenarios of this "mediation call" more than ask me to agree to pay ?

What exactly means "if the mediator probes my defence" ???

Sorry for so many questions, I just want all this to be over and forget about it.

Thanks.




Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
« Reply #18 on: »
I do not understand why they decided to take me in the whole court process if the the odds of actually having to go to a hearing are slim to none... what's the benefit to do it all ? 
It's a numbers game - these firms issue thousands upon thousands of claims each year. Enough people pay up at some stage of the process to make it worth their while to escalate them as far as possible. The few they lose (and therefore lose money on) are vastly outweighed by the ones who pay.

What is the purpose of the "Mediation" call, just trying to scare me and continue to push/try  until they to get money from me ?
Mediation has been made mandatory in small claims cases - it's not the claimant who has chosen to participate per se. It's of potential benefit in other types of claim, but largely pointless in these cases.

What exactly means "if the mediator probes my defence" ???
If they start asking you questions about it or to justify your points. There is no need to get into such a discussion in the mediation call.

Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
« Reply #19 on: »
Thanks for your prompt reply, I just got another email from DCBlegal "Emely@dcblegal.co.uk"
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Dear .....
We write further to your recent correspondence pertaining to the Parking Charge issued on 25th February 2023. 

For the avoidance of doubt, it is not DCB Legal’s obligation to provide the details you have requested at this time as we are unable to confirm the individual who is attending the appointment on our behalf. 

It is our position that our Directions Questionnaire is fully complaint and will not be re-filed and served. 

We confirm receipt of your signed copy of the Directions Questionnaire and note that Mediation has now been booked in for 11th December 2025. Within your appointment, you will be able to enquire the name and role of the Individual acting on behalf of DCB Legal; however, we confirm they will be fully authorised to conduct the appointment.

Kind Regards,

Emily Maloney
DCB Legal Ltd 


Tel: 0203 838 7038 | DX 23457 Runcorn
dcblegal.co.uk | Twitter | Linkedin | Facebook
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I will proceed as per your instructions, on the mediation call requesting
• the full name of the person attending for them;
• their role/position at their legal representative’s firm; and
• whether they hold written authority to negotiate and settle today.

I understand that all I need to know is the name and the position of the person acting for the claimant and report that back in here.

Hopefully it will be over within minutes.

Thanks again for all your help and support.
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Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
« Reply #20 on: »
Good evening,

I just got a call from DCB Legal, traying to have a "settlement" conversation with me, I asked them why they are calling me if we aleady got a Mediation call, and this lady insist they just wanted to talk to me to avoid the mediation... I said I have nothing to talk to them until the mediation call. When I ask for her name, she just hang up.

is this normal ?

Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
« Reply #21 on: »
Just block their number. Ignore them. This is just the precursor to them discontinuing.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain
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Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
« Reply #22 on: »
OK Good morning,

I just got the mediatoon Call, and they confirm :

Full Name of the person attending is: Kye Horabin
His Role : Mediation Associate
And Yes he hold written authority to negotiate and settle today.

I follow your instruction and keep my position saying: My settlement offer is £0, or I invite the claimant to discontinue with no orders as to costs.

The Mediator lady just called me back and said that the Claimants is not going to close the case, and this is now going to be on list for a Hearing in Court in front of a Judge and it will occure in a CCJ to me.

How we proceed next ?


Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
« Reply #23 on: »
What exactly were you told?
I imagine you were not told that you will receive a CCJ, but if you were told this you need to complain about the mediator.
All that you should have been told is that the claimant may make a claim against you, which you will have to defend.
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Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
« Reply #24 on: »
If the mediator actually told you that you will get a CCJ over this, then they have way overstepped their position and I would advise you to make a forma complaint to the SCMS about this mediator.

I can guarantee you that this will never reach a hearing in front of any judge and they will discontinue.
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Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain
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Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
« Reply #25 on: »
She literaly told me that the Claimant was not ready to close the Case, that they will put the case on a "List" for a Hearing, and she need it to explain me that if this go to court in front a Judge it's a 50/50 if I win good for me , but if I loose this will not be good for me and I will Get a CCJ that will affect my credit score and stay on my records for 6 years.

Indeed I would like to complaint about her, how can I do that, I did not got her name .

Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
« Reply #26 on: »
You don't need her name. Just email the following complaint to scmreferrals@justice.gov.uk and CC yourself:

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COMPLAINT – conduct of mediator at Small Claims Mediation Service appointment on 11 December 2025 – [Claim No: XXXXXXXX]

To whom it may concern,

I write to make a formal complaint about the conduct of the mediator who handled my Small Claims Mediation Service (SCMS) appointment on 11 December 2025 in the matter of Civil Enforcement Ltd v [Your Full Name], claim number [XXXXXXXX].

The appointment was scheduled in the 09:30–12:30 time slot on 11 December 2025 and conducted by telephone from a withheld number. The mediator was a female mediator from the SCMS. Unfortunately, I did not catch her name.

During the call, the mediator made a number of statements which, in my view, were inappropriate, inaccurate and inconsistent with the neutral role a court-appointed mediator is required to perform.

1. Misrepresentation of the effect of defending the claim (CCJ risk)

The mediator told me that the Claimant was “not ready to close the case” and that it would now be put “on a list for a Hearing in Court in front of a Judge”. She then went on to say that if it went to court it was “50/50” whether I would win and that if I lost “this will not be good for you and you will get a CCJ that will affect your credit score and stay on your records for 6 years.”

That is simply wrong and highly misleading. A County Court Judgment is only registered and affects a person’s credit record if any judgment is not paid within the statutory period (usually one calendar month). The mediator did not explain this at all. Instead, she presented a CCJ damaging my credit file for six years as the automatic and inevitable consequence of exercising my right to defend the claim at a hearing.

This was not a neutral or balanced explanation of the process; it was a one-sided and inaccurate description which amounted to pressure to settle.

2. Inappropriate legal opinion and prediction of outcome (“50/50” comment) by an unqualified person

The mediator told me that if the case went to a judge, it was “50/50” whether I would win, and that if I lost it would be “not good for me” because of an inevitable CCJ. That is, in substance, a legal opinion and prediction of outcome.

I appreciate that mediators may outline, in general terms, that litigation carries risk. However:

• The mediator’s comments were phrased as a definitive prediction (“50/50” and “you will get a CCJ”), not as a neutral explanation that either side could win and that there are consequences if a judgment is not complied with.
• She went beyond facilitating negotiation and stepped into the role of a legal adviser, despite there being no indication that she is an “authorised person” or otherwise qualified under the Legal Services Act 2007 to give legal advice or conduct reserved legal activities.
• No basis was given for the asserted “50/50” assessment or for the highly misleading statement that a CCJ would automatically arise and sit on my file for six years.

Unless this mediator can demonstrate that she holds a recognised legal qualification and authorisation under the Legal Services Act 2007, she has no business giving legal opinions or outcome predictions to litigants in person. In my view, this is so far removed from the standard expected of a neutral, court-appointed mediator that it should trigger at least a formal warning and a serious review of whether she is suited to this role at all, unless she can evidence appropriate legal training and authorisation.

3. Undermining of neutrality and confidence in the mediation process

The SCMS literature I received emphasised that mediators are neutral and that mediation is a confidential process aimed at helping the parties explore settlement. What I experienced instead was:

• A mediator who appeared to adopt and repeat the Claimant’s position that the matter “will” go to a hearing because they were “not ready to close the case”.
• A mediator who overstated and mischaracterised the consequences of defending the claim, by suggesting that an adverse judgment would automatically and inevitably result in a six-year CCJ on my credit record.
• A mediator who gave what amounted to legal advice and a prediction of outcome, rather than remaining neutral and facilitating discussion.

This undermined my confidence in the impartiality of the SCMS. I felt I was being warned off exercising my legal rights by someone calling from within the court system, using the authority of that position to pressure me into a settlement.

4. Impact on me as a litigant in person

I am a litigant in person with limited experience of the civil court process. Hearing from a court-appointed mediator that going to a hearing would “result in a CCJ” which would damage my credit record for six years caused me considerable distress and anxiety. I was left with the impression that simply allowing the case to proceed in the normal way would automatically and irreversibly damage my financial standing, regardless of whether I complied promptly with any judgment.

That impression is plainly wrong in law, and should never have been conveyed by a mediator acting under the auspices of the court.

My requests

Given the seriousness of the above, I request that you:

1. Retrieve and review the recording(s) of my mediation appointment on 11 December 2025 in claim [XXXXXXXX].
2. Confirm whether the statements described above – including the statement that I “will get a CCJ” that will remain on my record for six years simply if I lose at a hearing – are in line with SCMS training, guidance and standards for mediators.
3. Confirm what action will be taken in relation to the mediator concerned, including any remedial training, supervision, or disciplinary steps, to ensure that litigants in person are not subjected to inaccurate and intimidating statements about CCJs and court proceedings.
4. Confirm that a clear note will be placed on the court file that I did in fact attend and engage with mediation, and that I will not be criticised for refusing to be pressured into a settlement based on misinformation about CCJs.

I appreciate that mediators have a difficult role, but there is a clear line between explaining, in neutral terms, that litigation carries some risk and what actually happened in my case: a combination of inaccurate statements about the legal consequences of losing and a definitive prediction of outcome that had the practical effect of pressuring me to abandon a legitimate defence.

I look forward to your written response to this complaint and to confirmation of the outcome of your review.

Yours faithfully,

[Your Full Name]
[Your Postal Address]
[Your Email Address]
[Your Telephone Number]
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
« Reply #27 on: »
Yes, if she told you that you get a recorded CCJ for six years if you lose, this is simply untrue because even if you lose, as long as you pay the required amount within 30 days the record will be removed.

It sounds like she is siding with the claimant to attempt to frighten you into paying up and to avoid bothering the court.
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Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
« Reply #28 on: »
Thanks , I will send the complaint right now.

I also just got this email:

Mediation Not Settled
Claim number: ********

Parties: CIVIL ENFORCEMENT LIMITED v ************

Thank you for using the Small Claims Mediation Service today.

Although a settlement could not be reached on this occasion the parties are reminded that Court is considered a last resort and in which case both parties are encouraged to continue to communicate where possible in an attempt to resolve the claim, you may find that today's mediation gives you both a base upon which to build on.

If the parties can satisfactorily resolve the matter without the need of the Court, the Claimant should complete a notice of discontinuance using the appropriate form in the link and file it with the appropriate Court; N279 - w3 Notice of discontinuance (6.99) (publishing.service.gov.uk) or update Online Civil Money Claims through your account.

If not already done so. the claim will now be transferred out of our business centre to a court where standard directions will be given and you will be notified in writing of the next stages to follow. It is important that both parties follow these instructions and adhere to the timetable set down by the Court which will include a further court fee and a final hearing for determination of the matter. Further information can be found at; Make a court claim for money: What a court claim is - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

Many thanks for your participation in Mediation.

If you require any further information please contact us at the below details.

Civil National Business Centre | HMCTS | St Katharine's House 21-27 St Katharine's Street | Northampton | NN1 2LH
Phone: 0300 123 4593
Email: scmreferrals@justice.gov.uk




Looking forward to hearig from you for the next steps to follow.
Thanks.

Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
« Reply #29 on: »
Good afternoon,

Could you please let me know what happend after the mediation?
When I will know if they decided to move forward to a hearing or if they will acctually discontinue and close the case ?

what happen next ?

Thanks.