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Hello

I receieved a claim form on in May 2025, and submitted an AOS and defence in July.  By December 2025, the claim was transferred to my local court as per the DQ.

Please find here the claim form : https://ibb.co/1GppqjKK

The defence I submitted is at the bottom of this message.  Unfortunately I don't believe I seeked legal advice on here for this specific case and filed a defence which I had previously used for a similar case.

the case is now listed for a hearing at the end of this month. BW legal have sent their defence to my defence accross this week, and it mainly states that interest is not charged and quotes the signage that they rely upon which states no parking at any time.

I am the RK of the vehicle. The date of the parking is December 2024.  I believe the driver of the vehicle parked there only for a short time (less than 5 minutes) and once they realised they did not have permission to park there they moved the car.

Any help with this would be appreciated







1. The Defendant denies any liability for this claim.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim
(PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against
the Defendant such that the PoC do not comply with CPR 16.4.

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:
(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the
PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16(7.5);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or
clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or
contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity the exact
time when the breaches occurred and how long it is alleged that
the vehicle was parked before the parking charges were allegedly
incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state exactly how the claim for statutory
interest is calculated;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim are the
parking charges and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC states that the Claimant is suing the defendant as the
driver or the keeper. The claimant obviously knows whether the
defendant is being sued as the driver or the keeper and should not
be permitted to plead alternative causes of action.

4. The Defendant has attached to this defence a copy of an order
made at another court which the allocating judge ought to make at
this stage so that the Defendant can then know and understand the
case which he/she/it faces and can then respond properly to the
claim.

Statement of truth

I believe that the facts stated in this Defence are true. I
understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought
against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement
in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest
belief in its truth.





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Re: Hearing set for parking charge by car park management services LTD
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Do you have the original NtK?

Did you make any appeal?

Has the driver ever been revealed to the parking operator?

Please post up their evidence.

Re: Hearing set for parking charge by car park management services LTD
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Thanks for the reply.

I do not have the original NTK, and have not appealed or engaged with the company in any way - except from the AoS and defence submitted on Mcol.

I have enclosed the evidence which they have sent in a pack, i believe it includes the original Ntk. There is also a skeleton argument and a witness statement from a paralegal at BW.

https://ibb.co/qFm4LFPm
https://ibb.co/vvgcL21n
https://ibb.co/rjgQd3j
https://ibb.co/YTBCWbDw

Re: Hearing set for parking charge by car park management services LTD
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Please show us everything in the evidence pack including the skeleton and the WS.

Do they show the back of the NtK?

Re: Hearing set for parking charge by car park management services LTD
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(g) The PoC states that the Claimant is suing the defendant as the
driver or the keeper.
Do they? As far as I can see they don't state in what capacity they're seeking to hold you liable.

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There is also a skeleton argument and a witness statement from a paralegal at BW.
We need to see this. What is your deadline for submitting Witness Statements?

Re: Hearing set for parking charge by car park management services LTD
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Hello

Thank you for the help, and I must apologise the defence I submitted was done in a rush and taken from another case I posted. I hope it does not affect my chances.

I have also just checked through the documents and the papers i receieved from the court on 05 February state witness statements must be submitted by 05 march

I have uploaded the evidence :

https://ibb.co/JjwsCFX4
https://ibb.co/qLJ77tKx
https://ibb.co/YTcDPXKG
https://ibb.co/C39KRyqM
https://ibb.co/fVB7PktL
https://ibb.co/S77xW79V
https://ibb.co/C30K585h
https://ibb.co/W4Rw87vP
https://ibb.co/yc4ZSdYn
https://ibb.co/3mvd0hmS
https://ibb.co/1Yp9SxrL
https://ibb.co/s9pWSvZm
https://ibb.co/W42vSHDq
https://ibb.co/9ky7pkF9
https://ibb.co/wNkw4q1t
https://ibb.co/sdPbH0FJ
https://ibb.co/Wv68GFRq
https://ibb.co/0RsSkP16

If you guys think I have a good chance of winning this at court, please do advise the best way to proceed

Hello

Any advice regarding this? If i have messed up by not submitted WS, is there any point in attending court, or can I arrange to pay the balance on a monthly basis?

If you can draft something up by the weekend you can try and submit on the Monday. Very much not ideal, but litigants in person are afforded somewhat more leeway in some cases, so worth a go.

Had a very quick scan through the evidence pack and noted the following;

NtK is not compliant as it omits mandatory wording from Schedule 4 9(2)(f) of PoFA.

The relevant term is as follows;

THE NOTICE MUST warn the keeper that if, after the period of 28 days beginning with the day after that on which the notice is given—

(i)the amount of the unpaid parking charges specified under paragraph (d) has not been paid in full, and

(ii)the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver,

the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid;



The legislation requires that the keeper be warned that the parking operators NtK is required to comply with all conditions of the schedule in order for the parking operator to rely on PoFA to transfer liability to the keeper.

The sentence in bold above is never stated on the NtK and therefore the NtK is not compliant since THE NOTICE MUST contain this warning.


Secondly, the 'period of parking' is dubious - it's a single timestamp and not a 'period' - that's a possible PoFA point but; how does the Claimant intend to prove any parking took place? (verses a temporary stop)

Thirdly, (just noticed) the NtK does not include the mandatory wording required by 9(2)(e) - THE NOTICE MUST STATE that the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver


Further point - I've just gone through all evidence and there is absolutely nothing which demonstrates the period of time the driver was stationary - not even the pictures are timestamped - I would save this point for Court rather than the WS - put something very loose in the WS which does not draw specific attention to this point just in case they go to full hearing.

I would only submit a skeleton defence anyway. Their WS is only skeleton so I don't see a problem in that respect.


« Last Edit: Today at 12:05:44 pm by InterCity125 »

@DWMB2
Also just noticed that the WS is prepared by a paralegal 'under supervision' - this is contra to Mazur??

https://ibb.co/JjwsCFX4

The most obvious issue (IMHO) is that the signs are entirely prohibitive.
In Beavis ParkingEye offered the right to park, in exchange for a promise from the driver, and the Supreme Court held that a contact had been formed (not that anybody asked them).

Broadly speaking, a promise (deemed or actual) is only enforceable at law if it forms part of a contract - which requires an offer of consideration acceptance (often by performance), and consideration (whether at the time, or in the form of a promise) from the party accepting the offer.

Regardless of how clear the signs are, you cannot form a contract without offering something. It would take a particularly motivated District Judge and much violence against the English language to find that the signs prohibiting parking were actually making an offer of a right to park in exchange for a promise to pay a parking charge.
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I would agree on the prohibitive signage point, and ideally you want this issue front and centre.