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G24 LTD Parking Charge Notice
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I received a PCN last week from a private parking firm called G24 LTD. They had photos of my car leaving and exiting the car park.  I was staying at a Costa Coffee and the reason was "Unauthorised parking at Reading Gateway Retail Park, Imperial Way Reading RG2 0TA"

Here is the PCN https://www.amazon.co.uk/photos/share/4SZed1kCBTmG2CJMhsxRnYIW0iOBBCadkK7HUwroAsW

I have contacted Costa Coffee via twitter and email and they have said they can't do anything.

Should I just use the template on here: here: https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4816822/newbies-private-parking-ticket-old-or-new-read-these-faqs-first-thankyou

I have had success with this before.

I over stayed by 27 minutes..
« Last Edit: July 02, 2024, 07:55:15 pm by Cola0825 »

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I have removed that link, you've left all your personal information showing including your full name, home address, vehicle reg and PCN number. Please reupload with those details obscured.

I'm personally not a fan of that MSE appeal save for when you're just throwing something in because you need a POPLA code. It doesn't actually provide any grounds of appeal as to why no money is owed.

We could do with seeing photos of the signage at the site.

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Sorry about that I have hidden my private details as requested. The sign said something about only staying 2 hours. I assumed being a customer of costa that didn't apply. I have had a look on Google Maps but can't read the sign.

I can drive over there is evening ...its about 40 mins away if you need it though.

I am a bit worried as the date issued is 19/06 and they said I have 14 days to pay it. However it does not stipulate if this is 14 working days or not?

If it is all days then I have until tomorrow to pay the £60?

I only just had to pay another one from Oxford City Council it makes me sick how much money they are making out of us.
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/parking-outside-a-bay/msg24446/#msg24446
« Last Edit: July 02, 2024, 07:56:46 pm by Cola0825 »

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Please stop referring to the PCN as a "fine". I will give you £100 for every occurrence of the word "fine" that you can show me in the NtK you received.

What you have received is a speculative invoice for an alleged breach of contract between the driver and G24. The invoice is actually for £100 with a £40 bribe discount if you make their life easier by not appealing or challenging the alleged debt you owe them.

As G24 are not members the BPA, the supposedly independent appeals service, IAS, is nothing but a kangaroo court whose main purpose is to look after their paymaster members interests, not the appellant. What this means for you is that you are either low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree, ripe for picking by B24 or... you are not and you are prepared to take advice on how to fight this.

It's your money and time. If you are prepared to follow the advice, in a worst case scenario, there is no danger of a CCJ or any damage to your credit rating and you risk paying around £100 plus £35 in court fee and £50 in legal fee. In the best case scenario, you don't pay a penny and get a great life lesson in standing up for your rights and how the civil law system works.

Even if it went as far as a county court claim in the small claims track, there is every likelihood that they would discontinue before any hearing. They hope that you are gullible enough to simply pay them once they start threatening legal action.

To simplify the above... you don't owe G24 a debt unless a judge says you do. Do you think you owe an unregulated private parking company a debt or not?
« Last Edit: July 02, 2024, 05:06:52 pm by b789 »
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From what you've shown us so far, I've not seen anything that indicates a particularly compelling defence. We haven't seen the signage, but if it's there to be seen and capable of creating a contract, the contravention alleged would seem to be made out.

As b789 says, if you're willing to take a punt then you can challenge them and see how far they go, but it's your money at stake, so your decision to make.

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I have added the photos of the signs now use the link above. The only defence i have is I'm dyslexic so did find the sign a bit wordy and confusing.

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What the sign says is as clear as day! If it's 'customer parking only' then the time limit can ONLY apply to customers!

The only slight defect is the 'customer parking only' is 'forbidding' and can't create a contract with non customers, but as you were, it can.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2024, 08:55:36 am by The Rookie »
There are motorists who have been scammed and those who are yet to be scammed!

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You will have to excuse me for being thick I don't understand what you are saying.

Anyway I have some great news ...I sent an email to the landowner which in this case is 'Barclays Pension Fund' which is managed by a lady at workman.co.uk, I had emailed her to say I had overstayed but because I am dyslexic I had miss read the sign and she said the charge has now been voided :D

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I assumed being a customer of costa that didn't apply.
Sign says customer parking only.  You were a customer.
It also gives a time limit, as non customers aren't meant to park at all, then sensibly the time limit ONLY applies to customers.  How can a time limit for parking apply to those who shouldn't be parked there at all to start with?
There are motorists who have been scammed and those who are yet to be scammed!
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I assumed being a customer of costa that didn't apply.
Sign says customer parking only.  You were a customer.
It also gives a time limit, as non customers aren't meant to park at all, then sensibly the time limit ONLY applies to customers.  How can a time limit for parking apply to those who shouldn't be parked there at all to start with?

Yes that's mental !

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I assumed being a customer of costa that didn't apply.
Sign says customer parking only.  You were a customer.
It also gives a time limit, as non customers aren't meant to park at all, then sensibly the time limit ONLY applies to customers.  How can a time limit for parking apply to those who shouldn't be parked there at all to start with?

Yes that's mental !
No, it's perfectly normal, you'll find the exact same on thousands of private car parks and the rationale (ensuring turnover of spaces for customers) was upheld by the Supreme Court.
There are motorists who have been scammed and those who are yet to be scammed!

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I assumed being a customer of costa that didn't apply.
Sign says customer parking only.  You were a customer.
It also gives a time limit, as non customers aren't meant to park at all, then sensibly the time limit ONLY applies to customers.  How can a time limit for parking apply to those who shouldn't be parked there at all to start with?

Yes that's mental !
No, it's perfectly normal, you'll find the exact same on thousands of private car parks and the rationale (ensuring turnover of spaces for customers) was upheld by the Supreme Court.

Ah ok so you asked a Rhetorical question that thru me.