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Euro car parks County court -no permit - The willows Centre main
« on: September 04, 2024, 03:55:20 am »
A letter was received to my address which was a county court claim form made against my name from Euro Car Parks. As you can see in the letter, this alleged PCN is from October 2020. I am no longer the registered keeper of the Vehicle not since 2021, and i cannot even remember where this alleged contravention took place. I have googled The willows centre main and got a few places. One is a shopping centre of some sort.

I have read the very helpful guidance of @b789 for similar posts and aim to follow that. I saw that the advice is not to complete the claim on the MCOL site, i could not log in anyway as the information they provided as login details did not work.

So from the advice given i should use the paper forms attached to acknowledge receipt, and my intention is to defend all of the claim. with regards to the template letter to send, please advise what i can use.

I have never had something like this, asking for a so called debt 4 years later.

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Re: Euro car parks County court -no permit - The willows Centre main
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2024, 10:01:26 am »
Welcome. Don’t use the paper forms if at all possible. You can do the AoS by downloading the N9 response park form here:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5c45e568ed915d38a0611a61/n9-eng.pdf

Fill in the details online and type your name for the signature. There is no need to print or scan anything. When you’ve completed it, send the PDF as an attachment to: claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC yourself. Make sure that you include the claim number in the subject field and simply say in the body of the email to see attached N9 Acknowledgement of Service (AoS) for claim [number] in the case of [PPC (claimant] v [your name] Claim [claim number].

Make sure you receive an auto-response email back from the CNBC which should be almost immediately after you send it. If you don’t receive the auto-response email, keep trying until you do. If necessary, try using a different email agent.

With an issue date of 28th August, you must submit the AoS no later than Monday 16th September. There is nothing to be gained by delaying it. Once the AoS is filed, you then have until 4pm on Monday 30th September to file your defence.

Get the AoS done for now. Once you have confirmed that it has been done, we will assist with a defence.

As this claim has been filed by DCB Legal, there is a 99% likelyhood that
N they will discontinue before any hearing as long as a defence has been filed.
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Re: Euro car parks County court -no permit - The willows Centre main
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2024, 03:09:43 am »
Welcome. Don’t use the paper forms if at all possible. You can do the AoS by downloading the N9 response park form here:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5c45e568ed915d38a0611a61/n9-eng.pdf

Fill in the details online and type your name for the signature. There is no need to print or scan anything. When you’ve completed it, send the PDF as an attachment to: claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC yourself. Make sure that you include the claim number in the subject field and simply say in the body of the email to see attached N9 Acknowledgement of Service (AoS) for claim [number] in the case of [PPC (claimant] v [your name] Claim [claim number].

Make sure you receive an auto-response email back from the CNBC which should be almost immediately after you send it. If you don’t receive the auto-response email, keep trying until you do. If necessary, try using a different email agent.

With an issue date of 28th August, you must submit the AoS no later than Monday 16th September. There is nothing to be gained by delaying it. Once the AoS is filed, you then have until 4pm on Monday 30th September to file your defence.

Get the AoS done for now. Once you have confirmed that it has been done, we will assist with a defence.

As this claim has been filed by DCB Legal, there is a 99% likelyhood that
N they will discontinue before any hearing as long as a defence has been filed.

Thanks alot for the steps so far. I have sent the AOS as advised and received an auto response.

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Re: Euro car parks County court -no permit - The willows Centre main
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2024, 04:56:50 am »
Did you ever receive anything about this alleged parking event back when ECP say it happened? Did you ever receive windscreen Notice to Hirer (NtH) or a postal Notice to Keeper (NtK)? Did you receive a Letter of Claim (LoC) from DCB Legal?

Whilst you may not own the car anymore, that is not going to absolve the driver of any liability for the alleged debt., assuming they can prove that the keeper was also the driver at the time,  However, the claim is against the Keeper but we don’t know if they are able to hold the keeper liable under the provisions of PoFA.

So, in order to be able to provide a defence, can you please provide a timeline of the associated paperwork that was received about this PCN. Exact dates, if possible, for the initial PCN. We don’t need to know about any reminders or debt Cole for letters. Just the initial PCN (NtD and/or NtK) and LoC. Was the correct address on the vehicles V5C at the time of the alleged parking event?
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Re: Euro car parks County court -no permit - The willows Centre main
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2024, 10:12:52 am »
I honestly do not have any documentation from them dating back that far.

I cannot find anything relating to this PCN. i was even wondering if the coincindence in me receiving this PCN of 4 years ago is as a result me recently beating them at one other case where i countersued them and they withdrew their case. Not sure if they can be that petty or just pure coincidence.

I have moved home since 2020 and could have misplaced any documentation initially sent, if one was sent.

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Re: Euro car parks County court -no permit - The willows Centre main
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2024, 10:47:44 am »
Not sure if they can be that petty or just pure coincidence.
Euro Car Parks do have a habit of occasionally trawling their back catalogue and issuing a bunch of claims. They did it during COVID too, if I remember rightly.

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Re: Euro car parks County court -no permit - The willows Centre main
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2024, 12:06:50 pm »
Do you know or remember that the V5C for the vehicle had the correct address at the time of the event? It is a fairly common problem that people change address, update their drivers licence and either assume that their V5C will be updated automatically by the DVLA or simply never get around to changing it.

This is usually the reason that people get claims or worse, default CCJs out of the blue.

Did you receive a Letter of Claim (LoC), as required by the PAP, at least 30 days before the claim was issued?
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