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So my wife got a ticket for staying in a car park over the stated free duration. They had signage as they entered the car park stating that the time had come down from 3 hours to 2 but they had not changed all of the signs in the car park and she didn't see the one out front. She had the ticket come through, I went down to the car park and took a picture of the sign that said you had 3 hours that still had not been taken down a couple of weeks later and sent it to them as part of the appeal which they rejected.

After that I just left it because I've literally sent the same company valid pictures of parking tickets which they rejected.

Where do I stand on defending this? Can I send the court the picture and just let it be that. I've not had to go through any official proceedings like this before and the language is a bit over the top and I don't really understand the process.
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Post up the most recent letter you have received. Obviously you redact personal info.
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Its the letter from the court?
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Okay - perfect - post it up but redact personal details.

Leave all dates visible.

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https://i.postimg.cc/28DR8cxZ/Court-Letter.png

I assume you only need this first page
« Last Edit: Yesterday at 03:57:17 pm by Berge »
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In your opening post you mentioned an appeal, as well as an image you had taken of the signage. We could do with seeing both of these. A copy of the original PCN would also be useful.

You also mention that your wife 'got a ticket' - who is the court claim addressed to, you or your wife?
« Last Edit: Yesterday at 04:08:50 pm by DWMB2 »
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All the correspondence is sent to me and not my wife.

The original sign picture is on my old phone but this is the exact same sign I found online.

https://i.postimg.cc/8cJZR6g6/Parkingsign.png

The original copy of PCN is long gone unfortunately.

Digging through my email it looks like I might not of appealed the ticket. I cant imagine I didn't but I have no record of it
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Quote from: Berge on Yesterday at 05:12:37 pm
The original sign picture is on my old phone but this is the exact same sign I found online.
Do you no longer have it? The reason I ask is that one of the points of your defence could be that the signage on the site indicated a maximum stay of 3 hours, which the driver did not exceed. Your evidence of this would be your picture taken at the time showing this. An image with an uncertain date obtained off the internet is obviously less compelling as evidence.

There's a good chance this will be discontinued either way, but where you would appear to have a strong defence on the facts we'd ideally lead with those.
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Silly question; does your phone back up to a cloud?

Think carefully, is there any email which you sent which could contain the picture of the sign?

If you can produce a picture of that sign, ideally geo stamped, then this is a slam-dunk.
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It for certain wouldn't be geostamped. I know people who work at stores around the car park so could get testimonies from them if needed to prove the sign was up. It was up for ages.

So what I'm getting if I can prove that incorrect sign was there then that's a pretty solid defence
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There's every chance that a picture taken on a mobile phone contains geo information which you may not know is there.

I'm not suggesting that you'd ever have to produce that geo info but it's best to consider what you might add if the parking operator rebutted your photo.

You appear to have an incredibly strong defence - namely; inconsistent signage.

So, if you ever had to defend the matter, your legal defence would be that you accepted the 'offer of contract' which was set out on the sign which offered the 3 hour terms.
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Also, as b789 says if it goes to a court claim they will discontinue before paying the fee.
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