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Hi all,

I need some help with my current situation.

In mid July of 2024, I received a 'Letter of Claim' in the post from DCB Legal acting on behalf of Parkmaven Limited for an 'unpaid parking charge notice(s) (PCN)'. The letter was dated 26th June 2024.

The alleged date of the infringement was 15th December 2023 with the reason stated as 'No valid parking session'. I had purchased a parking space via 'Your Parking Space' website from 13th December until 15th of December 18:00 and I have email proof of this.

I emailed DCB Legal on 21st of July 2024 with an email template I found online from Money Saving expert which basically confirms my address and disputes the PCN issued (see the code block below).


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The alleged debt is disputed and any court proceedings will be vigorously defended.
I am sourcing and seeking independent debt advice and as such, I formally request that this matter be put on hold for an additional 30 days, in accordance with the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims 2017 ('the PAP').
I note that the amount being claimed has increased by a hugely exaggerated amount which the Government called "extorting money from motorists".
Don't send me your usual blather about that.

On the date of the alleged infringement, I had a fully valid parking space booked via “Your parking space” website.


I have two questions, and under the PAP I am entitled to specific answers:
Am I to understand that the additional £70 represents what you lot dress up as a 'Debt Recovery' fee, and if so, is this nett or inclusive of VAT? If the latter, would you kindly explain why I am being asked to pay the operator’s VAT?
With regard to the principal alleged PCN sum: Is this damages, or will it be pleaded as consideration for parking?

I received an automated response and then a few days later, 23rd of July, a Litigation Support Associate from DCB emailed me asking to confirm my details for security reasons which I failed to do as I simply missed the email.

Fast forward to present day, I have received a letter from 'HM Courts & Tribunal Service' saying that I owe money to someone and that I could get a CCJ if I dont respond promptly with the attached form. I just want to get this resolved as quickly as possible but £270 is ludacris amount of money. I actually plan to go abroad on a sabbatical for a few months so this has been quite a bummer to find out 48 hours

My questions are as follows,

1. Is it too late/futile to respond to the email from 23rd of July with the requested details?
2. Given that I have proof of my parking session (email receipt) I plan to contest the PCN and the claim so should I just be filling out the defence form
3. Shall I fill out the 'Acknowlegment of Service' form to give myself extra time (14 days ->28 days)?


Thanks in advance.

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Re: DCB Legal -> Letter of Claim --> HM Courts & Tribunal
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Welcome to FTLA.

Please show us the latest form you have received from the court.

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I had purchased a parking space via 'Your Parking Space' website

Oh dear, YPS have form for selling parking on car parks on which they have no relationship with the enforcement company. Might be worth checking the T & Cs on the YPS website, there was a case recently where YPS expected the motorist to tell the hotel receptionist they had booked through YPS so it could be logged with the private parking company, it wasn't done automatically.

It's possible Parkmaven have no relationship with YPS so your proof of payment may not be valid, worth checking that out before relying on it for defence when you get to submitting that.
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Hi,

Here is the latest correspondence from HM Courts & Tribunal (personal info redacted). I've attached it as a PDF as it was multipage and I couldnt figure out how to make a multipage image.
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Don't fret. If you follow the advice, this will end with a discontinuation.

With an issue date of 28th January, you have until 16th February to submit an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS). Follow the instructions in this linked PDF to submit your AoS.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0

By submitting the AoS, you then have until 4pm on Monday 3rd March to submit a defence.

When you have submitted the AoS, come back and we will provide instructions on how to submit a suitable defence.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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Thank you, I've now submitted the Acknowledgement of Service (AoS) using the guide provided. As suggested by @ixxy, I checked out the Terms & Conditions for YourParkingSpace and it doesnt seem too favourable.

My next questions are:

1. Should I be contacting Your Parking Space regarding this whole situation?

2. As I'll be abroad for at least 2 months, I would like all correspondence to be via email, how can I make that known to the courts so I dont receive anything by post?

3. Is it still worthwhile to respond to the DCB Legal's email from 23rd of July with the requested details and letting them know that I plan to submit a defence?

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In answer to your questions:

1. Why have you only left it until now to try and get 'Your Parking Space' involved? I seriously doubt they will be much use as ParkMaven have instructed DCB Legal to start litigation. You can still try and find out what went wrong with their system but, to behest, it is not going to make much difference in this case as DCB Legal will discontinue in due course.

2. No, HMCTS (Her Majesty’s Courts and Tribunals Service) does not routinely send legal documents via email unless expressly permitted by the court. Court documents, including claim forms, directions, and judgments, are typically served by post to the address provided in the court proceedings.

However, you may request email correspondence by writing to the court, but this is at the court’s discretion. The best approach is:

(a) Contact the Court – You should email or write to the court handling your case, requesting that all correspondence be sent via email while you are abroad. You should provide a valid reason (e.g., temporary absence from the UK) and specify a preferred email address.

(b) Appoint a Representative – If you have someone in the UK who can receive mail on your behalf, you may wish to appoint them as a representative to monitor your correspondence and update you on any deadlines.

(c) Check the Online Court System (MCOL) – As the case will be in the small claims track, you can check the Money Claim Online (MCOL) where updates might be available.

(d) Request an Extension if Necessary – If you expect to be unable to respond to deadlines while abroad, you may apply for an extension under CPR 3.1(2)(a) for case management purposes.

(e) Inform HMCTS of a Temporary Address (if applicable) – If you will have a reliable overseas address, you may inform the court, though this is not always ideal due to international postal delays.

Option (b) is probably the best if it can be arranged.

3. Don't bother responding to a two year old email from DCB Legal. They will receive a copy of your defence from the CNBC and will respond stating that they have received it and intend to continue. If you do want to make sure you only receive email correspondence from DCB Legal, the email them at info.dcblegal.co.uk and give them your email contact and the claim number. Don't give them your phone number as they will be a nuisance as the claim hearing date nears and they want to settle. (don't settle. They will discontinue).

I will come back with a suitable defence over the next few days. The one we have been using has now been amended and I just need to clarify a few details with the judge who is advising me.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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Hi @b789 thanks for your response & guidance.

1. In all honesty, I'd hoped my initial email to DCB Legal would have stopped this whole fiasco but that was very naïve of me. In hindsight, this should have been done as soon as I'd received the letter from DCB Legal (in Mid July 2024). I wont bother reaching out to them.


2. I'll contact the courts now making them aware of my situation (regarding being abroad) and speak to family about being a representative on my behalf. And of course monitor the situation via MCOL


3. I'm not sure if you meant two years figuratively or literally 🤣 but to clarify the email was only from 23rd July 2024 (approx 6 months). Regardless, as it's got to this point, I'm happy to hold of communicating with them directly and continue with the legal process. I was just hoping that maybe emailing them with proof of parking purchased via 'Your Parking Space' would be enough for them to drop the case completely.

Thanks once again.

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TO be honest, as long as you have someone who can open your mail back home and email you a copy if it is important, the you can easily deal with it whilst abroad. As I mentioned, as long as the claim is defended, it will be discontinued.

The only requirement will be to "attend" a mediation phone call where you offer £0 and it is over within minutes. It is not part of the judicial process so does not involve any judge or solicitor. When you receive the invitation for the mediation phone call, you can give them your foreign number.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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Hi all, I actually ended getting into contact with 'Your Parking Space' (the platform I booked the parking with) to see if they could see why I was issued a PCN from DCB legal. They've told me that I'd parked in the wrong parking area and that the fault is with me as the driver for not checking. I've attached my booking location (with link to the streetview) and the streetview of where I parked (on the opposite side of the road).

Booking: Eugene Street, St. Judes, BS5 0TN
 
PCN: Globe House Bristol

I can understand that this massively impacts my defence there may be an argument to make regarding the circumstances of my arrival in Eugene Street when no parking spaces were available at the time (despite having booked . It seems I had initially misinterpreted the signage and believed that the other parking zone was part of the same area. However, given the ambiguity of the signs indicating ‘Your Parking Space,’ I’m uncertain if this can be considered a valid defense.

Any thoughts/suggestions are much appreciated.

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With it being DCB Legal who are involved, they'll almost certainly discontinue anyway, regardless of the actual merits of your case.

Whilst we can't offer any guarantees, the following thread from our friendly neighbours on MSE will show you why we're confident about this: DCB LEGAL RECORD OF PRIVATE PARKING COURT CLAIM DISCONTINUATIONS

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You haven’t got a PCN from DCB Legal! DCB Legal are the firm of incompetent solicitors that are representing the actual firm that are suing you, ParkMaven.

You are sounding like you have succumbed to the male bovine excrement they have fed you about it being your fault. How gullible are you? Unless it is a very obvious error because there was a big sign with flashing lights and a big red hand pointing to the different codes on the different car parks, how were you, the consumer supposed to know which code you were supposed to enter?

This is a well known scam by these ex-clamper rogue parking companies. They prey on the low-hanging fruit that fall for the scam because they are easily fooled and end up paying for a mistake that was not their fault.

There is very good consumer protection law that you appear to be ignoring. Besides the fact sound like you are prepared to throw in the towel and not only pay the £100 charge, but you are also considering paying the added fake £70 and all the other costs that have been added.

I have told you that no one who defends a claim issued by DCB Legal pays a penny if they follow the advice. Why throw in the towel just because the scammers have conned you into believing the mistake is the drivers fault?

If you continue, even in the remotest chance that this were ever to get as far as a hearing (extremely unlikely), you still have a valid defence under the CRA 2015.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain
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@b789, yhh I'll be honest, I did start to think that I'd lose the case after finding out about why the PCN was issued but happy to stick with the process. @DWMB2 and you have convinced me that I can actually come out on top

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Hi @b789, have you or another one of the mods got a suitable defence I can file for my case? I believe I still have a few days left after filing my AoS back on the 2nd of Feb.

Thanks in advance.

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You have until Monday 3rd March to submit your defence. However, thank you for reminding us that we haven't yet provided it.

Here is the defence and link to the draft order and relevant transcripts that go with it. You only need to edit the claimant's name (as it appears on the claim form), your name and the claim number. You sign the defence by typing your full name for the signature and date it. There is nothing to edit in the draft order.

When you're ready you send both the documents as a single PDF attachment (in the order of 'defence', 'draft order') in an email to claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC in yourself. The claim number must be in the email subject field and in the body of the email just put: "Please find attached the defence and draft order in the matter of ParkMaven Ltd v [your full name] Claim no.: [claim number]."

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IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: [Claim Number]

BETWEEN:

ParkMaven Ltd

Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]


Defendant



DEFENCE

1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not comply with CPR 16.4.

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16(7.5);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts)

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant attaches to this defence a copy of a draft order approved by a district judge at another court. The court struck out the claim of its own initiative after determining that the Particulars of Claim failed to comply with CPR 16.4. The judge noted that the claimant had failed to:

(i) Set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions relied upon;

(ii) Adequately explain the reasons why the defendant was allegedly in breach of contract;

(iii) Provide separate, detailed Particulars of Claim as permitted under CPR PD 7C.5.2(2).

(iv) The court further observed that, given the modest sum claimed, requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, the judge struck out the claim outright rather
than permitting an amendment.

5. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim for the Claimant’s failure to comply with CPR 16.4.

Statement of truth

I believe that the facts stated in this Defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed:


Date:

Draft Order for the defence
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain