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The car registered keeper visited the car park: Priory Collier Woods back in Feb 2023. Note I have no recollection of this at this point of time. This is the google maps street view.

https://shorturl.at/JGl1e

It has clear signs that it is 2 hours maximum stay with no option to pay. Probably received a PCN and ignored it. I travel a lot part of my work and don't really pay attention to these claims as they never mount to anything and I know I didn't leave the car overnight, it's maximum an extra hour.

Now received a claim from the court for 286 GBP for this.

Could you please advise what would be the best next step? Thanks

I attached the court hearing removing personal details.

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Re: Court Claim - Euro Car Parks - Priory Retail Park Collier Woods
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With an issue date of 10th April, you have until 4pm on Tuesday 29th April to submit your defence. If you submit an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS) before then, you would then have until 4pm on Tuesday 13th May to submit your defence.

If you want to submit an AoS then follow the instructions in this linked PDF:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0

Otherwise, here is the defence and link to the draft order that goes with it. You only need to edit your name and the claim number. You sign the defence by typing your full name for the signature and date it. There is nothing to edit in the draft order.

When you're ready you combine both documents as a single PDF attachment and send as an attachment in an email to claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC in yourself. The claim number must be in the email subject field and in the body of the email just put: "Please find attached the defence and draft order in the matter of Euro Car Parks Ltd v [your full name] Claim no.: [claim number]."

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IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: [Claim Number]

BETWEEN:

Euro Car Parks Ltd

Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]


Defendant



DEFENCE

1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not comply with CPR 16.4.

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16(7.5);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts)

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant attaches to this defence a copy of a draft order approved by a district judge at another court. The court struck out the claim of its own initiative after determining that the Particulars of Claim failed to comply with CPR 16.4. The judge noted that the claimant had failed to:

(i) Set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions relied upon;

(ii) Adequately explain the reasons why the defendant was allegedly in breach of contract;

(iii) Provide separate, detailed Particulars of Claim as permitted under CPR PD 7C.5.2(2).

(iv) The court further observed that, given the modest sum claimed, requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, the judge struck out the claim outright rather than permitting an amendment.

5. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim for the Claimant’s failure to comply with CPR 16.4.

Statement of truth

I believe that the facts stated in this Defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed:


Date:

Draft Order for the defence
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Court Claim - Euro Car Parks - Priory Retail Park Collier Woods
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Good morning,
Firstly thank you for helping me. I am very grateful.

I have followed your instructions in every point; however I received another court letter on the same topic 4 Nov and I need further help please.

See attached. Any guidance would be much appreciated.


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« Reply #3 on: »
You received some court communication over a month ago but are only now asking for advice about it? There is nothing "attached" so I cannot advise further. The ball is back in your court (excuse the pun).

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Re: Court Claim - Euro Car Parks - Priory Retail Park Collier Woods
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I got the mail while I was on holiday to see my family.

Attachment included here in the link - the website doesn't allow me to attach.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cn4tPENwUJStBXYlgcF_EeJV_lHZ0uAK?usp=drive_link

Re: Court Claim - Euro Car Parks - Priory Retail Park Collier Woods
« Reply #5 on: »
That link is asking me to request access, you need to make it open to view

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The web site also has instructions in the sticky READ THIS FIRST post.
However you have not set up permissions correctly on your Google drive post, I can not view it.


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That letter contains your name and address which we don’t need to know and you may want to redact.
But something is missing because it’s telling you that the case against you has been successful and you will now owe money which, if not paid within a month, will lead to a record on your credit file.

This happened between your submitting a defence in April and November. You should have received a N180 from the court, and the case should have been allocated to a court local to you, and all the time you should have received letters from the court.

Do you know if this happened and was ignored, or otherwise?

The letter you have posted says you did not reply to the claim form. If you did, and you can provide some kind of evidence, eg in the form of an acknowledgment of receipt, then the court may be in error.
« Last Edit: December 09, 2025, 10:41:32 am by jfollows »

Re: Court Claim - Euro Car Parks - Priory Retail Park Collier Woods
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Oh no! I have proof of the email I sent as per your instructions on 23 Apr to claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk

I received no Further letters until this one in November.

How do I communicate with the court? Do you think I should just settle the amount after they realise they didn't respond to my email and didn't send me N10?

Thanks again - a bit worried now.

Re: Court Claim - Euro Car Parks - Priory Retail Park Collier Woods
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You need to follow the instructions under Note to the defendant on what you have uploaded, but you will get better advice from others than you will from me on the process.

See also https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/hmcts-ongoing-issues-with-email-submissions/ which might apply in this case. Essentially there are examples of the courts getting this wrong; if so it can be fixed but I am not the person to advise you on this.

Wait for others to provide input.
« Last Edit: December 09, 2025, 11:39:03 am by jfollows »
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Re: Court Claim - Euro Car Parks - Priory Retail Park Collier Woods
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I still can't access whatever document you are trying to show us, so I am unable to assist util you reveal the document, which I presume is a form of Judgment in Default.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Court Claim - Euro Car Parks - Priory Retail Park Collier Woods
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Yes, it’s gone back to the restricted document, but when it wasn’t it was a judgment in default as you guess.

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I still need to see it. However, it would help us and you if you make a timeline of what happened on what dates and we can then assess what is the best course of action.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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It’s all on the original poster, I think I’ve done what I can. I agree you need to see it, the OP keeps on restricting the documents so we can’t see them. My guess and hope is that this was part of the mess earlier in the year with incorrect default judgments, but without the information it’s only a guess.
« Last Edit: December 09, 2025, 02:20:43 pm by jfollows »