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You were asked to submit a SAR to Wise. As far as I can see all you've done is phone.

Submit a SAR ASP.

And I suggest you also submit one to BWLegal, after all you want to know what 'we have made several efforts to contact you' means.

There's no point concerning yourself about the LoC because you don't know anything a out the claim, do you.

You were asked to submit a SAR to Wise. As far as I can see all you've done is phone.

Submit a SAR ASP.

And I suggest you also submit one to BWLegal, after all you want to know what 'we have made several efforts to contact you' means.

There's no point concerning yourself about the LoC because you don't know anything a out the claim, do you.

There’s has been no communication whatsoever from Wise Parking till I received a letter from Trace Debt Recovery regarding a debt owed Wise Parking. I then contacted Wise Parking via email as to the source of the debt but till date Wise Parking has not sent anything as to the source of the debt.

You ignore Trace and any other useless debt recovery company.

Here is a suggested response to the LoC:

Dear Sirs,

Your Ref. ############
Proposed Legal Proceedings
Claimant: xxxxxx xxxxxxxx Ltd

I refer to your your letter of claim.

I confirm that my address for service for the time being - assuming you don't delay any claim - is as follows, and any older address must be erased from your records:

[Correct address here]

The alleged debt is disputed and any court proceedings will be vigorously defended.

How am I expected to guess the basis of your clients allegations? If alleging breach of contract, please provide a breakdown of the alleged "loss" and state whether the intention of enforcement is for deterrence or revenue.

If alleging trespass, please enclose further evidence of the perpetrator, proof of the liquidated damages alleged and the calculation of this sum by the landholder.

If a "contractual fee" is part of the amount claimed, I require a VAT invoice by return and an explanation from your client how they can allow drivers to park "in breach" for a fee if they were originally contracted to "disallow and deter" - not allow and profit from - unauthorised parking.

I note that there is no breakdown of the alleged debt amount. Please provide a detailed breakdown of the different elements of the amount claimed in your Letter of Claim as required under the PAP. I expect to be able to differentiate between the initial charge amount and any added amounts such as, but not limited to, damages, debt recovery costs, contractual charges, etc. and the VAT element on any added charges.

I require specific answers to the following two questions and under the PAP I am entitled to detailed answers:

1. Does the £150 include what is often dressed up as a 'Debt Recovery' fee, and if so, is this net or inclusive of VAT? If the latter, would you kindly explain why I am being asked to pay the operator’s VAT?

2. With regard to the principal alleged PCN sum: Is this damages, or will it be pleaded as consideration for parking?

Yours faithfully

You ignore Trace and any other useless debt recovery company.

Here is a suggested response to the LoC:

Dear Sirs,

Your Ref. ############
Proposed Legal Proceedings
Claimant: xxxxxx xxxxxxxx Ltd

I refer to your your letter of claim.

I confirm that my address for service for the time being - assuming you don't delay any claim - is as follows, and any older address must be erased from your records:

[Correct address here]

The alleged debt is disputed and any court proceedings will be vigorously defended.

How am I expected to guess the basis of your clients allegations? If alleging breach of contract, please provide a breakdown of the alleged "loss" and state whether the intention of enforcement is for deterrence or revenue.

If alleging trespass, please enclose further evidence of the perpetrator, proof of the liquidated damages alleged and the calculation of this sum by the landholder.

If a "contractual fee" is part of the amount claimed, I require a VAT invoice by return and an explanation from your client how they can allow drivers to park "in breach" for a fee if they were originally contracted to "disallow and deter" - not allow and profit from - unauthorised parking.

I note that there is no breakdown of the alleged debt amount. Please provide a detailed breakdown of the different elements of the amount claimed in your Letter of Claim as required under the PAP. I expect to be able to differentiate between the initial charge amount and any added amounts such as, but not limited to, damages, debt recovery costs, contractual charges, etc. and the VAT element on any added charges.

I require specific answers to the following two questions and under the PAP I am entitled to detailed answers:

1. Does the £150 include what is often dressed up as a 'Debt Recovery' fee, and if so, is this net or inclusive of VAT? If the latter, would you kindly explain why I am being asked to pay the operator’s VAT?

2. With regard to the principal alleged PCN sum: Is this damages, or will it be pleaded as consideration for parking?

Yours faithfully

Thank you.

You are at LoC stage. Ignore Trace. Let them file their claim.

At any stage, have you identified as the "driver"? Hopefully not. You should only have ever communicated as the "Hirer".

Never identified as the driver.

I think it’s Trace who have instructed BW legal to start the legal proceedings, it’s all related to the same Wise Parking pen.

Quote from: b789 on June 13, 2024, 11:53:06 am

You ignore Trace and any other useless debt recovery company.

Here is a suggested response to the LoC:

Dear Sirs,

Your Ref. ############
Proposed Legal Proceedings
Claimant: xxxxxx xxxxxxxx Ltd

I refer to your your letter of claim.

I confirm that my address for service for the time being - assuming you don't delay any claim - is as follows, and any older address must be erased from your records:

[Correct address here]

The alleged debt is disputed and any court proceedings will be vigorously defended.

How am I expected to guess the basis of your clients allegations? If alleging breach of contract, please provide a breakdown of the alleged "loss" and state whether the intention of enforcement is for deterrence or revenue.

If alleging trespass, please enclose further evidence of the perpetrator, proof of the liquidated damages alleged and the calculation of this sum by the landholder.

If a "contractual fee" is part of the amount claimed, I require a VAT invoice by return and an explanation from your client how they can allow drivers to park "in breach" for a fee if they were originally contracted to "disallow and deter" - not allow and profit from - unauthorised parking.

I note that there is no breakdown of the alleged debt amount. Please provide a detailed breakdown of the different elements of the amount claimed in your Letter of Claim as required under the PAP. I expect to be able to differentiate between the initial charge amount and any added amounts such as, but not limited to, damages, debt recovery costs, contractual charges, etc. and the VAT element on any added charges.

I require specific answers to the following two questions and under the PAP I am entitled to detailed answers:

1. Does the £150 include what is often dressed up as a 'Debt Recovery' fee, and if so, is this net or inclusive of VAT? If the latter, would you kindly explain why I am being asked to pay the operator’s VAT?

2. With regard to the principal alleged PCN sum: Is this damages, or will it be pleaded as consideration for parking?

Yours faithfully

Thank you.

The hire company gave them the correct address but Wise Parking made a mistake in the spelling of the address hence probably why the PCN to the hirer was not received.

Why is it appropriate to give the correct address as you’ve suggested above?