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Re: CCJ for private parking charge registered to my old address
« Reply #120 on: November 04, 2025, 04:54:50 pm »
It says at the bottom here "no later than 14 days before the hearing" https://ibb.co/23StLL6X


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« Reply #121 on: November 04, 2025, 05:12:10 pm »
In a previous reply you had indicated it was 6th - that would seem to be 14 days prior to 20th, when the hearing is due to take place.
Both parties have until 4pm on Thursday 6th November to submit their WS. 

Simultaneously remarkable yet unsurprising that a firm of solicitors that issues small claims so readily hadn't noticed that their WS was too large for online submission.
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« Reply #122 on: November 04, 2025, 05:25:26 pm »
I'm wondering myself now...do they mean 14 days excluding the actual court day?  Should I send tomorrow maybe just to play it safe?

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« Reply #123 on: November 04, 2025, 07:23:32 pm »
“no later than fourteen days before the hearing” excludes the hearing date itself.

That means the deadline is 14 clear days before the hearing, not counting the hearing day. So if the hearing is on a Friday, the latest day to serve documents would be two Fridays prior.

This interpretation aligns with standard UK civil procedure, where “clear days” typically exclude both the starting and ending dates unless otherwise specified. If the instruction had said “within 14 days of the hearing,” that would include the hearing date — but “no later than 14 days before” sets a cutoff that precedes it.
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« Reply #124 on: November 04, 2025, 07:29:27 pm »
Ok thank you, so I should definitely send it on the 6th?

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« Reply #125 on: November 04, 2025, 07:34:34 pm »
If the hearing is scheduled for 20th November, then yes. However, I suggest you do not submit it until just before 4pm on the 6th.
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« Reply #126 on: November 04, 2025, 07:36:37 pm »
Thank you very much, I will do. Yep the hearing is on the 20th.

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« Reply #127 on: November 10, 2025, 12:02:19 am »
Just a minor update to say I did submit my WS at 15:30 on the 6th November. I also received a ring binder of QDR's WS the same day. It was identical to the one that they tried to submit online which was rejected due to page and file size, I have no idea if the court has actually received either of the copies of their WS. So as far as it stands I'm ready for court on the 20th.  ;)
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Re: CCJ for private parking charge registered to my old address
« Reply #128 on: November 10, 2025, 07:34:25 am »
I’m sure you’ll be fine. You know all the points that you are contesting.

Did QDR give any indication whether they will attend the hearing?

One of your strongest points is that the original claim was never served within 4 months. Make sure you emphasise that at your hearing. There is no discretion on the court to allow an unserved claim to stands. I was very surprised when the set aside judge allowed it. I can’t remember if that was even brought up at the set aside.

On the day, arrive early enough to get through security and let the usher know you have arrived. Remember to ask for costs for unreasonable behaviour when you win. You can prepare a costs schedule for your time spent on this matter at the Litigant in person rate of £24/hour.

Time spent on research, preparing your set aside, defence, WS etc all count. Also, any travel expenses to and from the hearing are also allowed, such as transport, parking etc.
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« Reply #129 on: November 10, 2025, 07:41:46 am »
Thank you, QDR didn't give any indication that I noticed. I may have messed up last time by not being vocal enough about the main point. To be honest at the time I was a bit flustered. I think I have a better understanding this time around.
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« Reply #130 on: November 10, 2025, 12:58:46 pm »
Just had this through from QDR, I have no idea what the purpose of it is or if I need to respond? This is a link to the three attachments, I've combined them: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pQV4kWerPUDn5BQy2zFWCbBQV7qj3iF0/view?usp=sharing

Please help?  :o

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We write in reference to the Hearing listed on 20 November 2025.
 
As per the Order dated, 3 July 2025, the parties are to agree a trial bundle and any relevant authorities bundle. Please find attached copies of the indexes for the relevant bundles, if you have any further documents you wish to be included in either version, please provide these by 13:00pm Wednesday 12 November 2025, so that we can ensure they are included within the bundles. For the avoidance of doubt, if we do not hear back from you, we will be filing and serving the Bundles with the Court to comply with the prescribed deadlines.
 
Please also find attached a copy of the proposed draft Case Summary for your approval, which is to be included within the bundle. Please also confirm if you propose any amendments.
 
We kindly await your confirmation and copies of any documents to be provided to be included within the bundle, ahead of next weeks hearing by no later than 13:00pm on Wednesday 12 November 2025

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« Reply #131 on: November 11, 2025, 11:30:50 am »
Would something like this be OK?

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Subject: Response to QDR email – Bundle & Case Summary (Claim No. )

Dear Sir or Madam,

Thank you for your email.

Please ensure that my witness statement and exhibits dated 5 November 2025 are included in the bundle. I have no further documents to add.

In respect of the proposed case summary, I do not agree with the wording as it omits the key procedural point that the original claim form, issued on 7 December 2022, was never served within four months as required by CPR 7.5. No application for an extension under CPR 7.6 was made, and therefore the claim expired. This goes directly to the court’s jurisdiction.

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« Reply #132 on: November 11, 2025, 01:13:48 pm »
You reply to QDR as follows and CC yourself:

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Subject: UKPC v [Defendant] – Claim No. [ ] – Objection to Late Bundle and Case Summary

Dear Sirs,

I acknowledge receipt of your email dated 11 November 2025 concerning the proposed trial bundle and Case Summary.

For the avoidance of doubt, paragraph 6 of the Court’s Order dated 3 July 2025 required each party to serve all documents intended to be relied upon no later than fourteen days before the hearing, namely by 6 November 2025. Your correspondence of 11 November 2025 is therefore out of time and non-compliant with that Order. No application for an extension of time or for relief from sanctions has been served. I do not consent to any retrospective variation or informal extension.

Your late approach appears to be an attempt to regularise procedural non-compliance after the fact. The Defendant will draw the Court’s attention to this and will invite the Court to disregard any material filed or served out of time unless permission is formally granted.

Without prejudice to that position, I do not agree with your proposed Case Summary, which contains several factual and procedural inaccuracies, including but not limited to:

– the claim was never properly served in accordance with CPR 7.5;
– the claimant has failed to comply with CPR 16.4; and
– the claimant has failed to comply with the Court’s specific directions concerning evidence and bundle preparation.

If, notwithstanding the above, the Court permits a late authorities bundle, please ensure inclusion of the following cases for completeness:

Brennan v Premier Parking Solutions Ltd (Plymouth CC, HHJ Mitchell, 21 Aug 2023)
Mazur v Charles Russell Speechlys LLP [2025] EWHC 2341 (KB)
Vinos v Marks & Spencer plc [2001] 3 All ER 784

Yours faithfully,

[Name]
Defendant

You also send the following to the court and you attach a copy of QDR's email and your response. CC QDR and yourself:

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IN THE COUNTY COURT AT WATFORD
Claim No.: [Claim number]
Between:
UK Parking Control Ltd – Claimant
and
[Your full name] – Defendant



Date: [Insert today’s date]
To: The Court Manager
[Court’s email address]

Dear Sir or Madam,

Re: Late service of trial bundle and Case Summary – breach of paragraph 6 of order dated 3 July 2025

I write to place on record that the Claimant’s solicitors, QDR Solicitors Ltd, have served proposed bundle indexes and a draft Case Summary by email dated 11 November 2025.

Under paragraph 6 of the Court’s directions dated 3 July 2025, all documents to be relied upon at the hearing were required to be served and filed no later than fourteen days before the hearing — that is, by 6 November 2025. The claimant’s email of 11 November 2025 is therefore out of time and non-compliant.

No application for an extension of time or relief from sanctions has been served on me. I do not consent to any retrospective variation or informal extension of the timetable.

For the Court’s ease of reference, I attach:

• A copy of the claimant’s late email dated 11 November 2025; and
• A copy of my response letter to the claimant dated [insert date], setting out my objection.

I respectfully ask that this correspondence be placed on the case file for the trial judge’s attention.

Yours faithfully,

[Your full name]
Defendant

Here are links to the authorities for your bundle:

Brennan v PPS

Mazur v Charles Russell Speechlys LLP

Vinos v Marks & Spencer

You attach those authorities as PDF files to the email to QDR.
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« Reply #133 on: November 11, 2025, 01:39:49 pm »
On the 18th November, submit the following costs schedule to the court and CC QDR. You also take at least 2 hard copies of it with you to court, just in case anyone says they never received it:

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IN THE COUNTY COURT AT WATFORD
Claim No: [insert claim number]
Between: UK Parking Control Ltd (Claimant)
and
[Defendant’s full name] (Defendant)

DEFENDANT’S COSTS SCHEDULE

Hearing date: 20 November 2025
Hearing type: Small Claims Hearing

1. Basis of claim for costs

This schedule is submitted in advance of the hearing pursuant to CPR 27.14 and CPR 46.5(4)(b).

The Defendant seeks costs under:

• CPR 27.14(2)(a): fixed costs (travel, parking, loss of earnings/time).
• CPR 27.14(2)(g): costs for the Claimant’s unreasonable conduct throughout proceedings, including failure to comply with the court’s order dated 3 July 2025, late service of documents, and persistent procedural defaults.

2. Time spent on case preparation

DescriptionHoursRateTotal
Reviewing original claim, set-aside application, and court orders3.0£24/hr£72.00
Reviewing claimant’s witness statement and exhibits2.5£24/hr£60.00
Preparing and drafting Defendant’s witness statement5.0£24/hr£120.00
Reviewing claimant’s bundle correspondence and preparing responses2.0£24/hr£48.00
Preparation of this costs schedule and bundle review before hearing1.5£24/hr£36.00
Attendance at hearing (including waiting time) – estimate2.0£24/hr£48.00
Subtotal (time costs)16.0 hrs£384.00

3. Disbursements

DescriptionAmount
Printing and copying (witness statement, exhibits, bundle)£12.00
Postage and recorded delivery£6.00
Travel to Watford County Court (return mileage / public transport)£15.00
Parking at court£5.00
Subtotal (disbursements)£38.00

5. Statement

I am a litigant in person and claim my time at the standard rate of £24 per hour under CPR 46.5(4)(b).

The Claimant’s conduct has been unreasonable throughout, including defective service, failure to comply with court directions, late service of documents, and the submission of procedurally defective pleadings.

I therefore respectfully request that the court award my costs under CPR 27.14(2)(g) in the total sum of £422.00.

Signed: [Your full name]
Date: [insert date]

Obviously amend as necessary with actual figures for you and remove anything that you have not Doen, such as if you have not posted anything you would not include postage etc. For each of your court visits, include mileage at 45p/mile round trip if you drove plus any parking or, if you used public transport, include the receipts, and so on.
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« Reply #134 on: November 11, 2025, 05:43:48 pm »
Thank you so much! All done.  :)
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