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Hi,

I'm after some advice if possible.

I've just been to the hospital to visit a family member. My car was parked in a bay, a parking ticket for 2 and a half hours was purchased and then went to visit. After an hour I had to go and I got to my car and there was a PCN from UKPC on my windscreen. The reason was my car was parked in a permit area without displaying a permit. I hadn't noticed the sign that said staff parking with a permit only at the entrance of this car park (located 1 turn lower but same layout as the pay for parking areas).

I went into the hospital with the PCN and the paid for parking ticket and they just fobbed me off saying I had to appeal it with UKPC.
Outside of there I was walking back to my car and I seen the parking attendant. I asked him to cancel the charge and he said no. I'd paid for parking but he wasn't interested and said my car was in a permit only area. He then showed me pictures of my car parked with the ticket on but in every picture he showed me there is no signage to say I'the car is in the staff permit area. Just a bank behind the car and some trees.
I've looked on the appeals site and the pictures are there and again nothing there apart from maybe the angle he's taken one picture to try and highlight the location shows I'm parked in a permit area but no signage in the photo. He's also taken a photo of a sign which to be honest I never noticed and could have been anywhere. The signage he's taken a picture of states No Unauthorised Parking. Am I able to enter into a contract with them if no contract seems to be on offer? Or maybe I'm just overthinking that.

£70 reduced to £40 if paid within 14 days but would happily fight this if I can.

Many thanks,

Valheim

Hi b789

I shall find the ceo of the trust for the hospital and see if I have any luck, I'll also have a read through what you have linked (many thanks for that).

I'm not sure what PALS is (apologies). If it means the parking attendant he marched me down to where he took pictures and told me it was a staff permit area (there's a sign as you enter that part saying Staff permit only but it was completely missed when the car entered that section of the car park. No other signs near apart from the other side of the car park away from where the car was parked and it would not have been passed to have been read).

To add about the signage, the sign that has been photographed by the parking attendant was not passable by my car (other side of the car park as mentioned above). The only sign passed was a sign stating Staff Parking, Permits Only but no T's & C's to this. I will though revisit in the next day or 2 and double double check this.

Hopefully this works

https://ibb.co/PDF5kLr

I've just viewed my dash cam footage and I do actually pass some signage but it is impossible to read from a car

This is the signage https://ibb.co/ctqdS82

11th July is now in my Calendar as an alert. I'll look to how I can upload the video somewhere for viewing. Many thanks for your help so far, it is much appreciated

Pretty damning evidence here:

You've already identified yourself as driver to the parking attendant, PALS, the hospital CEO(prospectively) and in this thread.

I wouldn't bother playing the 'appeal as keeper to a Notice to Driver' tactic.

The creditor only has to convince the POPLA assessor in the first instance and a judge subsequently that there are sufficient signs on site. And we've seen them in the previous post.

OP, what do you think?

Hi,

Just a quick update.

I've received an email from the hospital saying that they have asked UKPC to cancel the charge and they have received a response from UKPC that the charge has been rescinded.

Thanks to all who helped and advised (mainly contacting PALS as I'd never have done this and this got the charge cancelled).