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Re: Brent Cross Shopping Centre DYL - UKPC
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UPDATE: Letter of Claim received from DCB Legal. Do you need me to post it here? If not, please advise what my next action should be?
Thank you

Re: Brent Cross Shopping Centre DYL - UKPC
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It would be useful to see it.

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« Last Edit: March 04, 2025, 12:02:11 pm by oshkosh »

Re: Brent Cross Shopping Centre DYL - UKPC
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You are waiting for this to eventually turn into a claim - when it does, you will receive a Claim Form from the Civil National Business Centre, which you should share here.

In the meantime, here's an example of how you can respond to the Letter of Claim, courtesy of b789. Amend any case specific details such as dates as necessary.

Respond as follows:

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DCB Legal
Direct House
Greenwood Drive
Manor Park
Runcorn
Cheshire
WA7 1UG

By email to: info@dcblegal.co.uk

[Date]

Dear Sirs,

Re: Letter of Claim dated 20th February 2025

I refer to your Letter of Claim.

I confirm that my address for service at this time is as follows, and I request that any outdated address be erased from your records to ensure compliance with data protection obligations:

[YOUR ADDRESS]

Please note that the alleged debt is disputed, and any court proceedings will be robustly defended.

I note that the sum claimed has been increased by an excessive and unjustifiable amount, which appears contrary to the principles established by the Government, who described such practices as “extorting money from motorists.” Please refrain from sending boilerplate responses or justifications regarding this issue.

Under the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims, I require specific answers to the following questions:

1. Does the additional £70 represent what you describe as a “Debt Recovery” fee? If so, is this figure net of or inclusive of VAT? If inclusive, I trust you will explain why I, as the alleged debtor, am being asked to cover your client’s VAT liability.

2. Regarding the principal sum of the alleged Parking Charge Notice (PCN): Is this being claimed as damages for breach of contract, or will it be pleaded as consideration for a purported parking contract?

I would caution you against simply dismissing these questions with vague or boilerplate responses, as I am fully aware of the implications. By claiming that PCNs are exempt from VAT while simultaneously inflating the debt recovery element, your client – with your assistance – appears to be evading VAT obligations due to HMRC. Such mendacious conduct raises serious questions about the legality and ethics of your practices.

I strongly advise your client to cease and desist. Should this matter proceed to court, you can be assured that these issues will be brought to the court’s attention, alongside a robust defence and potentially a counterclaim for unreasonable conduct.

Yours faithfully,


[YOUR NAME]

Save as a PDF file and attach to an email addressed to info@dcblegal.co.uk and also CC in yourself.

Re: Brent Cross Shopping Centre DYL - UKPC
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Thank you - will keep you posted.

Re: Brent Cross Shopping Centre DYL - UKPC
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A money claim was received today from DCB Legal / UK Parking Control. Do I need to post this up here? What is the next course of action please?

Re: Brent Cross Shopping Centre DYL - UKPC
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Just post the actual Claim Form with the Particulars of Claim (PoC). Only redact your personal data, the claim number and the MCOL password. Leave everything else visible, especially all dates.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Brent Cross Shopping Centre DYL - UKPC
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« Last Edit: May 09, 2025, 12:39:35 pm by oshkosh »

Re: Brent Cross Shopping Centre DYL - UKPC
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With an issue date of 7th May, you have until 4pm on Tuesday 27th May to submit your defence. If you submit an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS) before then, you would then have until 4pm on Monday 9th June to submit your defence.

If you want to submit an AoS then follow the instructions in this linked PDF:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0

Otherwise, here is the defence and link to the draft order that goes with it. You only need to edit your name and the claim number. You sign the defence by typing your full name for the signature and date it. There is nothing to edit in the draft order.

When you're ready you combine both documents as a single PDF attachment and send as an attachment in an email to claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC in yourself. The claim number must be in the email subject field and in the body of the email just put: "Please find attached the defence and draft order in the matter of UK Parking Control Ltd v [your full name] Claim no.: [claim number]."

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IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: [Claim Number]

BETWEEN:

UK Parking Control Ltd

Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]


Defendant



DEFENCE

1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not comply with CPR 16.4.

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16(7.5);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts)

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant attaches to this defence a copy of a draft order approved by a district judge at another court. The court struck out the claim of its own initiative after determining that the Particulars of Claim failed to comply with CPR 16.4. The judge noted that the claimant had failed to:

(i) Set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions relied upon;

(ii) Adequately explain the reasons why the defendant was allegedly in breach of contract;

(iii) Provide separate, detailed Particulars of Claim as permitted under CPR PD 7C.5.2(2).

(iv) The court further observed that, given the modest sum claimed, requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, the judge struck out the claim outright rather than permitting an amendment.

5. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim for the Claimant’s failure to comply with CPR 16.4.

Statement of truth

I believe that the facts stated in this Defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed:


Date:

Draft Order for the defence
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Brent Cross Shopping Centre DYL - UKPC
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Many thanks.

Maybe a daft question, but why does the draft order not have any case reference related to it? I am assuming it was made in relation to a specific case.

Re: Brent Cross Shopping Centre DYL - UKPC
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I am assuming it was made in relation to a specific case.
You're hoping it'll be made in relation to your case. The draft is provided so that if the judge agrees with the proposal, he can just use that draft for this case.

Re: Brent Cross Shopping Centre DYL - UKPC
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Got it ::) thanks

Re: Brent Cross Shopping Centre DYL - UKPC
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Docs sent by email. Do I need to serve to the Claimant as well, or is that done automatically by the Court?

Re: Brent Cross Shopping Centre DYL - UKPC
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No. The CNBC will send a copy of your defence to the claimant. You will receive an acknowledgement that this has been done.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain
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Re: Brent Cross Shopping Centre DYL - UKPC
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Received form N180 today. Is this normal process?
They wish to allocate to Small Track.