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Apcoa LHR. Do I pay twice if went to wrong terminal 1st
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Hi. My daughter was picking me up last night from Lhr T3. She went to T4 mistakenly, parked up & called me, I told here weont terminal. She came and picked me up. I went on the website, via their chat box,  to explain the situation and was only told that there were 2 outstanding fines. I asked if I had to pay both no reply and they stopped the conversation.
Anyone know what I can do?
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was only told that there were 2 outstanding fines
Can you show us a copy of exactly what they said? I would be very surprised if they referred to anything as 'fines', but if they did that would be very wrong of them.

What is your relationship to the vehicle? Whoever the Registered Keeper is will eventually receive (a) Parking Charge Notice(s) in the post - when they do, come back and we can advise on dealing with them.

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Oh dear... attempting to have a conversation with APCOA. Not what we would advise.

Anyway, you have not received any "fines" so please stop calling them that. For every occurrence of the word "fine" that you can find on your Notice to Keeper (NtK) I will give you £100.

The advice we give to anyone in receipt of an NtK from APCOA for anything to do with Heathrow is as follows, assuming you have not blabbed that you were the driver:

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I am the registered keeper. APCOA cannot hold a registered keeper liable for any alleged contravention on land that is under statutory control. As a matter of fact and law, APCOA will be well aware that they cannot use the PoFA provisions because Heathrow Airport is not 'relevant land'.

If Heathrow Airport wanted to hold owners or keepers liable under Airport Bylaws, that would be within the landowner's gift and another matter entirely. However, not only is that not pleaded, it is also not legally possible because APCOA is not the Airport owner and your 'parking charge' is not and never attempts to be a penalty. It is created for APCOA's own profit (as opposed to a bylaws penalty that goes to the public purse) and APCOA has relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver only.

The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable. APCOA have no hope at POPLA, so you are urged to save us both a complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.

Your saving grace is that if you have revealed the drivers identity, APCOA are not litigious and apart from useless debt collector letters which should always be ignored, nothing will happen.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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Ok I can't exactly remeber the wording but it was "2 outstanding 'something'. Might have been violations or something else. My mind wet to fines. As for taking screenshot of conversation,I could not as they ended the conversation and no option of saving it.

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I have no problem paying the the £5. But I don't want to pay twice. Would it be best to pay that before midnight and fight the other?

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As asked before.. who is the registered keeper of the vehicle?
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If it is not too late to appeal, i.e., you have not yet received a Notice to Keeper (NtK), wait until you receive one for each alleged breach and appeal only as the Keeper with the wording I provided earlier. They will cancel.

Why do you insist on paying them £5 when there is no requirement to do so. If you pay for one, they will still chase you for the other.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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Thanks will wait.

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you still haven't told us if you are the RK.
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No I'm not RK. My daughter is

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In which case, any appeals submitted once Notices to Keeper arrive must be submitted in her name as the keeper.