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Re: CPM parking charge notice | E-permit required | Hyde Village
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2025, 12:50:17 am »
I fear we're at risk of going round in circles here. polbb, you will need to do some digging in order to provide us with some information. It might be useful for us to know:
  • Who owns the land upon which your car was parked
  • Whether you park in a specific marked spot, or in any available space on the car park
  • Any written correspondence exchanged outlining an agreement regarding parking

In most residential cases we see, a car parking space is provided as part of the tenancy. In your case, you tell us this is not so. However, the nature of any agreement you have around parking is likely to shape the content of any defence against the charge, so we need to try and figure out what's what.

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« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2025, 08:28:21 am »
I would not be able to answer that question.

I just did a quick search and possibly the Landowner is Hyde housing. The Estate is managed by Hyde Group.

I just found some info:  https://www.hyde-housing.co.uk/tenants/car-parking/

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Re: CPM parking charge notice | E-permit required | Hyde Village
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2025, 01:14:16 pm »
Then you need to ask your landlord what the pit lease says about parking. Was any mention made about parking when you applied for the tenancy?
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Re: CPM parking charge notice | E-permit required | Hyde Village
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2025, 02:37:27 pm »
No, we did not discuss anything related to parking when I applied for my tenancy as I didn't have a car by then in 2016

I suppose I can contact my Landlord and ask.
What exactly do I need to know from him?

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Re: CPM parking charge notice | E-permit required | Hyde Village
« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2025, 03:59:36 pm »
Is there a parking space included in the lease? What does the lease say about parking?
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Re: CPM parking charge notice | E-permit required | Hyde Village
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2025, 12:18:25 pm »
No, absolutely nothing about parking spaces in my lease. I have revised many time already.

I received a reponse to my appeal today:

Thank you for your appeal against the above Parking Charge Notice.

At UK CPM we consider all appeals on a case-by-case basis. We take each appeal very seriously and thoroughly investigate any evidence that has been provided. We appreciate your circumstances and understand this is not a situation anyone would like to find themselves in; however, these parking conditions have been put in place to ensure fair usage for all motorists and support the needs of our client. After careful consideration, it is unfortunate that I am writing to you today to advise that on this occasion, your appeal has been unsuccessful.

The decision to uphold your parking charge notice has been made on the following basis.

Whilst we note the comments and reason for appeal, as per our photographic evidence, the vehicle was parked in contravention of the advertised terms and conditions. As the vehicle was parked without a valid virtual permit for the full and correct registration, we can confirm that this PCN has been issued correctly.

You have now reached the end of our internal appeals procedure and therefore you now have two options; either pay or appeal to the Independent Appeals Service (IAS) - you cannot do both.

To make payment of the total amount due as shown above, please use one of the following payment options;

Online: www.paymyticket.co.uk
Telephone: 0345 463 4040 (24hr)
Post: Payments & Collections, PO Box 3114, Lancing, BN15 5BR
Alternatively, if you do not agree with your internal appeal outcome and you wish to dispute the matter further, as you have complied with our internal appeals procedure you may use, and we will engage with, the IAS Standard Appeals Service providing you lodge an appeal to them within 28 days of this rejection.

The Independent Appeals Service (www.theIAS.org) provides an Alternative Dispute Resolution scheme for disputes of this type. If you decide to appeal to the IAS, you will need to visit their website and use your PCN reference and corresponding vehicle registration. All PCN's will be uploaded to the IAS website by the end of this working day.

If you appeal this charge further then you will lose the ability to pay at the reduced rate (if applicable). In the event that your IAS appeal is unsuccessful, the full amount for the PCN will then be payable. If you lodge an appeal with the IAS and then subsequently pay the charge prior to that appeal being determined, then the appeal will be withdrawn, and you will not be given a further opportunity to contest the charge.

If you do not wish to dispute the matter further and payment is not received within 28 days of the date of this correspondence then additional charges may be incurred, for which you may be liable. If the charge continues to remain outstanding, the matter may be later referred for litigation in the County Court which could result in a County Court Judgment being made against you; this may impact on your ability to obtain credit in the future.



Is it worth using this The Independent Appeals Service?

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Re: CPM parking charge notice | E-permit required | Hyde Village
« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2025, 01:41:27 pm »
What does the landlords head lease say about parking? We know your lease/AST says nothing.

This is like pulling teeth. In most cases of residential parking issues, the land is owned by someone. Either the landlord or possibly the leaseholder. There will be terms and covenants in the lease of that land. Those terms or covenants are supreme when it comes to arguing what rights anyone has to impose additional terms that usurp the original lease. The terms of the otpriginsl lease cannot simply be changed, not even by the leaseholder without a due legal process covered by tatie law.

So, we would need to know the status of the land where your vehicle was parked in order to know what defence you have against the PCN you received from a third party. Get your landlord to tell you what the terms of their lease say about parking at the property.
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« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2025, 02:33:22 pm »
Unfortunately getting information from my Landlord is very difficult. I have requested already with no response. I need to consider options.


My question now is specifically about the independent appeal service.

Is this something worth trying? Is it the correct legal procedure?

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Re: CPM parking charge notice | E-permit required | Hyde Village
« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2025, 02:37:31 pm »
Is this something worth trying?
No - the IAS are useless. Even if they weren't, at present we'd struggle to help you with an appeal to them, for the reasons b789 has mentioned above, mainly that we still have no idea what (if any) parking rights you have by virtue of the landlord's lease.