Author Topic: [ENG] Parking charge notice (PCN) from Civil Enforcement Ltd.  (Read 520 times)

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Hey,

On the 22nd of May, a driver used my car at a car park in England, prior to a healthcare appointment they couldn't affort to miss.

They parked at the car park, and tried to pay using the machine, which failed with some kind of 'declined' error twice in a row. The account had the funds, and they didn't have another card the machine would accept.

They downloaded the parking app and tried to pay on their phone, which also failed with the error "Validation Failed". They have a screenshot of the app open with their details and this failure message. It doesn't contain a date, but the image metadata does contain a date.

Since they couldn't pay, they went to my medical appointment (approx 1 hour).

When they returned, they tried the machine again, and managed to pay for tge vehicle. They got a 2 hour ticket, and had been present 1hr and 10 mins.

They've gone to the bank to try and get evidence of the failed transaction, but they are wiped from a record after approx 48 hours, so no dice. They do however have a statement which shows my succesefull payment prior to them leaving the car park.

They've go the usual £60 fine, increasing to £100 should they not pay shortly, or if they decide to contest (which is obviously predetory and designed to prevent the parking company from being held to account, but that's a whole other argument...).

My question is, should they contest this? It feels as though they've done everything they can to try and pay for this parking, and they actually DID pay prior to leaving, but outside of what they assume is a 15 minute window they are supposed to pay in.

What are their chances? Is it worth it, or should they pony up the £60 whilst they can?

I appreciate that one CAN sometimes ignore these sorts of things, and they just never get enforced, but they'd rather not roll the dice on a CCJ when they can afford a £60 fine, even though they feel like it's unjust.

Anyone with experience of specific expertise offering me an insight would be really helpful.

Car park in England, Date 22/05/2024, Company is Civil Enforcement Ltd.

Thanks.

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Re: [ENG] Parking charge notice (PCN) from Civil Enforcement Ltd.
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To help us to help you, please read the following thread carefully and provide the information it asks for: READ THIS FIRST - Private Parking Charges Forum guide. In this case it will be particularly useful to see:
  • The parking charge notice received
  • Photos of the signage at the car park in question

Re: [ENG] Parking charge notice (PCN) from Civil Enforcement Ltd.
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To help us to help you, please read the following thread carefully and provide the information it asks for: READ THIS FIRST - Private Parking Charges Forum guide. In this case it will be particularly useful to see:
  • The parking charge notice received
  • Photos of the signage at the car park in question

So sorry, I'd had a look and hadn't seen there were more things after point number two.

I've attached what I can below. I won't be back at the car park in the near future, so those are photos I found online. Hopefully they are clear enough.

*edited this post to prevent the thread becoming too long, thanks MOD for guidance*

https://imgur.com/a/g1JRNGp




« Last Edit: June 05, 2024, 05:16:23 pm by plusrcL »

Re: [ENG] Parking charge notice (PCN) from Civil Enforcement Ltd.
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As advised in the guidance thread, you'll need to use a third party site such as Imgur to upload images. Once you've done that, use the 'share link' option to get a BB Code that you can add in here.

Re: [ENG] Parking charge notice (PCN) from Civil Enforcement Ltd.
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how embarassing.

I've edited the above message to contain the images so they're closer to the first message. Thanks.