Received the PCN attached for stopping at a red route. The location mentioned is a EV charging point that is a 1 single bay). I pulled in to the bay for less than 45 seconds ( 3 pictures shared by TFL are within 35 seconds of each other) to let a passenger out without realising this was a EV charging point only. I didn't notice the bay turning in as It is very much immediate as you make a turn, and I need to focus on oncoming traffic from other direction. There is very little time to notice given the tree trunk and foliage of the tree and traffic coming from other direction to merge. Better pictures from the TFL page attached. I moved immediately as I noticed the bay, but now realise that's not quick enough.
Thank you in advance fo any guidance.
Couple of questions,
1. can I quote the tree trunk, foliage obscuring the board and lack of clear view due to insufficient approach time?
2. Should this have been PCN code 14 and not 46? Is this an angle to challenge?
Appreciate any advise . If I'm at fault then I'm happy to swallow the pride and pay.
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DId you actually let the passenger out ? If you didn't you could claim that you stopped with the intention to park, but read the sign and drove straight off.
Yes, it was less than 45 seconds and as soon as I stopped the passenger got off... they didn't really wait for my permission it anything.
Well, sorry to say it, but I think you don't have a lot to go on if you want to stand your ground. TfL will refuse your reps, because they just want your money, there is no traffic management benefit in this PCN whatsoever, so to test the matter, you'd have to take them to London Tribunals with the full PCN penalty in play. Of course, if you win you pay nothing.
Understood. Would the PCN code actually be 46? I also realise they have 14 for specifically the EV charger parking.
Understood. Would the PCN code actually be 46? I also realise they have 14 for specifically the EV charger parking.
Well, it might be wrong, but as I said, you'll have to test that at London Tribunals. Would you win ? I'm not sure
Thank you. Is there an angle for appeal at all here? 80 pounds for a 30 second stop seems excessive. The charging point marking is also at a major merging point between 3 different roads, so one has to always watch the incoming traffic which makes it almost impossible for anyone to read a sign looking at the opposite side to the incoming traffic.
Appreciate if there are any other views here.
I suggest you get hold of the video recording from TfL, instructions in the PCN.
This would not only stop the enforcement clock, it would enable you and us to see the evidence which would form their case at adjudication.
Thank you. I will try to get hold of the Video.
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