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Thank you. Will make representation based on the above and let you know how it goes.


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Hi All,
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Was driving home from the Theatre in Kingston. Stopped at controlled lights with junction. Lights were green and traffic ahead was moving so proceeded into box expecting traffic to clear as it was moving. However as I entered the box I saw that the box was much bigger than expected (you cannot see the exit to the box clearly due to faded markings and poor weather and dark conditions).
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I could’ve have cleared the box however the car in front failed to close the gap ahead (even with a friendly hoot of the horn).
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Poor traffic controls on the subsequent lights mean that the junction does not function correctly. Compounded by ongoing roadworks further on backing all traffic up.
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My argument would be that the box is too big as you can’t see where it ends clearly as it ‘travels’ around to the right. This is also impossible to see at night and in poor weather until you are on it. Also traffic controls suggest that you can proceed – the lights are well behind the box and you cannot see the exit of the box from the controls.
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Here is view in day: https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4134214,-0....i8192?entry=ttu
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At night the poor markings are not clearly visible.
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It also doesn’t help that I don’t live in Kingston and are unfamiliar with the layout.
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PCN pictures:






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Video:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1po3au5R5oj...iew?usp=sharing
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Thoughts on challenging this? All help appreciated.
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I also got a bus lane ticket 9 minutes earlier which I will post on here too. Closed roads and poor signage again.
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Thanks

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Was driving home from the Theatre in Kingston following google maps. Approached junction as route given ahead was closed as you can see in the pictures. I’m not from Kingston so didn’t know where I was going and choose to go left. Didn’t realise it was a bus lane.
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Having looked on google maps, the bus lane isn’t signed correctly on approaching the junction. The signage feels inadequate and misleading as there are arrows on the road for straight ahead and a right turn but there is a pavement pole sign with an arrow ahead for other "Other Routes" and a arrow Right for " Esher (307) but no indication of a bus lane.
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https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4093353,-0....i8192?entry=ttu
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There is another sign further up hidden behind this sign and not visibile from the junction
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4091537,-0....i8192?entry=ttu
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Given my preferred exit was closed as seen by the cones in the picture, and i'd missed the signage do I have a case to challenge this? The weather was also terrible and it was dark.
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PCN pictures:



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Video:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K899i3vZus...iew?usp=sharing
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Thanks in advance.

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