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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: NIP
« on: November 21, 2023, 09:02:46 am »
Quote from: M60NJP on November 21, 2023, 07:59:36 am
It doesn't matter about the driver's awareness - it matters that the road signage complies in order for many limits to be prosecuted (it's not black & white though).

Experts will comment on the admissability, but I contend as you've provided it freely and willingly it's had to back-pedal from that.

I'd check the TRO for that exact road at this point and see what the limit is............

So we have the following on this road - one 40mph sign at the entrance to the road, one at the first 40mph painted on the floor and a further one at the second painted 40 but no further on that clip.



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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: NIP
« on: November 21, 2023, 08:35:45 am »
Cheers - really appreciate


What's a TRO please?

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: NIP
« on: November 21, 2023, 07:55:31 am »
@M60NJP


I get what you're saying but on the audio the following can be heard "so it's a 40 ****, I was doing 70"  so sounds like the driver is aware.


However I've read something somewhere but cant find it again around the conversations within the car are private and are inadmissible?  not sure if someone can give clarity there also - something around if people are not aware the dashcam is recording audio!  - the person that said the comment above was aware but the conversation was with someone who didn't have awareness of this fact.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: NIP
« on: November 20, 2023, 03:49:01 pm »
Have a peep here

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: NIP
« on: November 20, 2023, 03:20:04 pm »
oh yes - indeed - wasn't paying due care and attention when completing the online form  :-[

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Speeding and other criminal offences / NIP
« on: November 20, 2023, 02:55:31 pm »
Hi all

So - I've been a div and wonder if anyone can help me.........


So the crux of the issue is I've sent in some dashcam to report a police driver who was driving without due care and a distinct lack of attention further down the road and I've wrongly sent an unclipped bit of footage which incriminates me on a road further on from this initial incident - what a div!

Received a NIP and I've asked for their evidence so I know what I'm fighting, they sent me links to my footage, two correct and clipped pieces and one unclipped video that stuffs me and also sent the following in the email.


The NIP states they are taking action "Drive a mechanically propelled vehicle on a road without due care and attention"


Reporting person is driving on a 40mph road whilst his current speed is showing as 62mph on the video footage. Reporting person can be heard saying "so it's a 40 ****, I was doing 70" followed by "sets us up now for a bit of fun here, because these corners are epic if you drive them right". Aside from the speed limit, Reporting Person is travelling far too fast for the wet road. Into the tight bends there are solid white lines in the road, "slow" painted on the road and oncoming cars that are being forced over to the lefthand side of their carriageway.

So yup once the giggling has stopped from whomever is reading this I can confirm I do have the dashcam footage, also the road was wet, however not once was I out of control, the speed didn't go over 65, no-one else on the oncoming side had to avoid me nor change course and this is clear on my footage - they took the apex of the corner as you'd expect, they just take corners as a normal car would.
I've been driving for over 30 years and not had points in at least 15yrs, I've had no trouble with the police previously also.

Anyone know how's best to proceed and what I'm looking at prosecution wise?

Thanks in advance.

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