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Cheers for your help.

I will get her dad to check whether he can sort it online tonight.

And my apologies if I wasted 10 minutes of anyones life  :D Rest assured it was not intended, as you have always been helpful both here and on your previous website.

Thanks again

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Got the NIP from my friend, although it does not say Notice of Intended Prosecution. It says Conditional Offer. Are they different.


Yes, a Notice of Intended Prosecution is different from a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty.
This is why it's not a good idea to post on someone else's behalf.

Noted ! and your opinion is..........

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Hi, apologies for the delay. Got the NIP from my friend, although it does not say Notice of Intended Prosecution. It says Conditional Offer. Are they different.

Also noted 28 days expires today, although they didnt receive this until the following week.

Based of previous comments i am guessing you are going to recommend acceptance.

Thanks again

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Will post the redacted NIP asap. Thanks again

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No NIP is required if she was warned at the time of the offence that she may be prosecuted.

Re a potential breach of the PACE Codes of Practice, the practical reality is “so what?”. It is unlikely that the prosecution will need to rely on anything she said in relation to the offence so it becomes immaterial.

Do you know (ignoring that you’re acting as an intermediary of an intermediary, which is very unsatisfactory) how her speed was measured?

Thanks - no idea how her speed was measured as i would have expected a print out or something to be handed to her by the Police Officer.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / NIP received following Police stop
« on: November 07, 2024, 10:52:57 am »
Hi

Hoping you can offer a friend some advice.

Date of Offence 25.08.2024
NIP arrived Tues 16.10.2024
NIP dated 10.10.2024
Location as stated on NIP: A11 Wymondham Bypass
No speed on the NIP -
Alleged offence (in bold) Speeding - motor vehicle exceeding 70mph on a dual carriageway - manned equipment

Our friends daughter, aged 17 at the time of the offence, was followed and eventually stopped by an unmarked Police BMW from the the A146 slip road on to the A47 Norwich southern bypass until the M&S garage on the A11 at Wymondham. This is a distance of about 10 miles.

There was one Police Officer in the BWM who proceeded to cautioned her and took her details. He did not offer her an appropriate adult (she was under 18) before questioning her further - is this a breach of PACE?

She did not admit to speeding as her vehicle is restricted using Ford My Key to 80 mph and she was not travelling at that speed - we have not been sent photo or video evidence of the offence.

The Police Officer also asked her to sign an electronic device / tablet. We are unsure why, we hope this wasnt an admission of the offence as she wasnt given time to read what was on the device / table.

The NIP appears to time barred / not served on time - is this correct?

Lastly, my friend has emailed Norfolk Constabulary asking for evidence of the offence and has questioned the Police Officer's conduct on date of the offence.

Can post a copy of the NIP if required.

Any advice on next steps would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks very much

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Hi
Good news. Lincolnshire County Council, while not accepting the picture above is of a parking permit, has applied discretion and allowed my son's appeal.
Thanks very much

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Thanks very much for your advice. I have emailed Lincolnshire County Council and will let you know the outcome. Much appreciated

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Hi

Moving this across from PePiPoo and thanks for the message.

My son has received a Notice to Owner in respect of a PCN. He is in his second year at Lincoln University. This year he is living in a shared house in Dunlop Street. He has taken his car with him to Lincoln. He moved into the house on 15/09/2023. We noticed it was a permit holders-only area and bought his parking permit that evening. The parking permit arrived and is valid from 01/09/2023 to 31/08/2024.

My son is adamant that the yellow penalty notice was not on the vehicle windscreen when he went to his vehicle, probably later on 17/10/2023. He is also adamant that no further yellow notices have been placed on his vehicle.

As requested I have uploaded photographs of the Notice to Owner letter, the CEO's photographs, a copy of his resident parking permit, and a zoomed-in photograph of the PCN photograph timed at 10:19:18 on 17/10/2023.

The zoomed-in photography appears to show his resident's parking permit was on display, please see the darker square image on the dashboard near the nearside wing mirror - my guess is it may have been face down.

Appreciate your expert opinions on the next steps:
1. It is a first offence.
2. He had only been living in Dunlop Street 5 weeks.
3. The permit was purchased immediately
4. He thought that the council would have the details of his vehicle on a database and would x-check if he ever made an error - his home address with us, is in an area where all the car parks use Ringo and he applied the same logic
5. Focus on the zoomed-in photograph as it may help his case

Thanks very much


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