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I will be challenging the new PCN once issued - and pending that outcome will need to keep bailiffs happy too.
If I’m successful in that challenge then hopefully I can use that in further discussions with TFL regarding the others.

As I’ve said, this route is well used by traffic and we’ve been using it twice daily for more than two years.

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Thanks all - what depressing reading..

I think the fact that TFL can’t make their mind up on whether or not that is an allowable route isn’t entirely irrelevant here.
I’ll continue with the complaints (Stage 1 through to Ombudsman) and will probably have to set up some sort of payment plan with CDER in the interim.
If the camera was incorrectly calibrated, and TFL subsequently became aware of that, then the very root of these PCNs is wrong.

Regarding comments of “a mess of their own making” etc - they’re really not helpful here.. It’s an honest mistake and I’ve responded as best I can given the situation. If I felt the PCN were valid I’d have paid these already!




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Hi all,

The 9 TFL PCNs all relate to the same permitted manoeuvre during September/October 2025 - driving from Havil Street, across Peckham Road, and into Vestry Road. All 9 PCNs were sent to my old address and therefore the first I heard of them was in April 2026, at my new address, when CDER Group delivered 9 letters demanding £325 for each PCN (£2,925 total!!).



The case is identical to https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/baffling-tfl-pcns/ - albeit they were able to appeal direct to TFL. As I was late to get the PCN I've missed this window. For background this is a route  that is commonly used by traffic and is something I or my wife do twice a day, every day. The fact that in a period of 2 years we have only been issued 9 PCNs suggests that clearly something wasn't working for a short period. The reasoning as to why I didn't get the original PCNs are that in April 2025 we sold our house. 3 days out from completion our onward purchase fell through. We scrambled for a rental place until December 2025 when we moved again and I updated my DVLA records. In that interim period we bought a house, changed car, and had our 2nd child, so DVLA record updates were not a priority!

Example of one of the CDER Group Letters: https://imgpile.com/p/gmXuI9L

I immediately submitted a PE2 and PE3 form for each of the PCNs in order to "wind back the clock" and go through what I felt would be a 'slam-dunk' appeal to TFL. Given the scale of the fine and the short notice before 'enforcement agent action' I admit I probably rushed this process and spent too long putting detail into the PE3 part (about evidence as to why the PCN should not have been issued in the first place).

Example of one of the PE2 Forms: https://imgpile.com/p/LO6evvk

As of 16/06/2026 these have been the responses so far:



The fact that TEC have accepted one of them gives me at least a glimmer of hope - but is this just a case of TFL missing one? The fact that the other 8 identical application were all rejected doesn't make any sense. Surely if one has been accepted then there is precedent that they should all be accepted if they're identical?

Now that most of them have been rejected I expect CDER group will be back on my case looking for money - I already paid £325 back in April to stop imminent 'enforcement action' as the PE2 forms weren't going to arrive soon enough (apparently I can claim this back in the PCN is overturned, but I'm not confident..). Is there any mechanism to put this action on hold pending complaints to TFL, other than an appeal to the TEC via something like an N244?

In summary: Have I exhausted my 'free' options with the TEC? The next appeal appears to be £123 per PCN! Could I submit just one of these, get the TEC rejection overturned and then use that as precedent for the others? Is there any hope in complaining to TFL directly about what is (or was) a faulty traffic camera on the junction? It can't be right that I'm being asked to pay nearly £3k for a TFL camera problem?!

Any advice really appreciated, thank you!

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