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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Got a PCN for visiting my Nephew! (Haringey) .. Help with APPEAL please (Representation Rejected)
« on: November 18, 2023, 04:46:14 pm »
PCN for LTN, 52(M)
London Borough of Haringey
Location: Downhills Park Road N17 (Walpole Road Eastbound)(X3A)
Help regarding an Appeal would be appreciated.
Summary:
My destination was Higham Rd - inside the LTN.
Coming from the north, I took the most direct route.
I drove into the area between two planters with 20mph emblazoned on the tarmac.
This appeared to be an entrance to an Access Only residential area.
It was logical to assume that all routes into the zone were the same - one route in was as good as another.
Nearly 3 weeks later, I received a PCN:
Photo:
My Representation
has been rejected - basically on the grounds that I drove through THIS route and stating there are other routes.
Now that I have researched the LTN it seems that I was expected to have made a detour of 3.2km including 1.6km inside the zone rather than just 200m!
The fine appears to have little to do with making improvements for residents:
1. Driving a longer distance is contrary to the stated LTN goals of reducing pollution and keeping the road safer.
2. It is contrary to Haringey’s own FAQ statement which states “Local residents and businesses can still use cars as well as receive visitors and deliveries”.
Haringey FAQ on LTNs
3. It is unfair to expect people from well outside the London Boroughs to know that this access route is different to the rest.
Perhaps also the signage is non-compliant?
I noted discrepancies in my item 6 of my Representation.
Westbound warns of Penalty Charge, but the Eastbound (entering the zone) does not!
Entering the zone (Eastbound) the planters are also missing the vehicle prohibition sign.
The attached photos show the view Eastbound
and Westbound
Thank you in advance for your help.
London Borough of Haringey
Location: Downhills Park Road N17 (Walpole Road Eastbound)(X3A)
Help regarding an Appeal would be appreciated.
Summary:
My destination was Higham Rd - inside the LTN.
Coming from the north, I took the most direct route.
I drove into the area between two planters with 20mph emblazoned on the tarmac.
This appeared to be an entrance to an Access Only residential area.
It was logical to assume that all routes into the zone were the same - one route in was as good as another.
Nearly 3 weeks later, I received a PCN:
Photo:
My Representation
has been rejected - basically on the grounds that I drove through THIS route and stating there are other routes.
Now that I have researched the LTN it seems that I was expected to have made a detour of 3.2km including 1.6km inside the zone rather than just 200m!
The fine appears to have little to do with making improvements for residents:
1. Driving a longer distance is contrary to the stated LTN goals of reducing pollution and keeping the road safer.
2. It is contrary to Haringey’s own FAQ statement which states “Local residents and businesses can still use cars as well as receive visitors and deliveries”.
Haringey FAQ on LTNs
3. It is unfair to expect people from well outside the London Boroughs to know that this access route is different to the rest.
Perhaps also the signage is non-compliant?
I noted discrepancies in my item 6 of my Representation.
Westbound warns of Penalty Charge, but the Eastbound (entering the zone) does not!
Entering the zone (Eastbound) the planters are also missing the vehicle prohibition sign.
The attached photos show the view Eastbound
and Westbound
Thank you in advance for your help.