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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Confirming speed: SpeedCurb camera
« on: July 01, 2026, 03:29:03 pm »
Yeah, I only queried in because the statement they made was incorrect:  The images used for secondary checking, including the time interval between frames, are also shown within the camera evidence document.

I went for the easy option :-)

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Confirming speed: SpeedCurb camera
« on: July 01, 2026, 11:03:28 am »
Thanks, guys.

I think it's pretty poor that you can't see the evidence so have to gamble, poker-style, that they are right. Justice should be transparent. I recall in the days when I was involved with a protest group, we targeted the CCTV $camera cars and found they were issuing fines in illegal circumstances on a regular basis  ::) Richmond Council didn't even have a licence to operate them! Here's a good example of why I distrust camera enforcement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ADTL6Se22w

All in all, I can't complain as it's only my second speeding ticket in over half a century of driving.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Confirming speed: SpeedCurb camera
« on: June 30, 2026, 03:40:47 pm »
Bah! I was unaware that Imgur was blocked in the UK. It worked OK when I previewed.  Sorry about that.

Hmm, it seems very unfair that one can't confirm the evidence. As you can see, they incorrectly claimed that the evidence online allowed this  >:(

It sounds like it's not worth the gamble. Thanks.


Good morning,

Thank you for your correspondence.

To address your queries, please see the information below:

•   The secondary check mark distance is detailed within the camera evidence document. For RedSpeed devices, these markings are set at 1 metre apart.
•   The images used for secondary checking, including the time interval between frames, are also shown within the camera evidence document. This includes the recorded frame delay and the two wide-angle images provided.
•   A calibration certificate is attached for your reference. This confirms the period during which the camera has been tested and deemed accurate.

With regard to system logs, the Metropolitan Police does not retain these records. Should you wish to obtain such information, you would need to contact the equipment supplier, Redspeed International, directly.

Please note that we do not assist with or facilitate such requests.

As the enforcement authority, the Metropolitan Police considers the camera evidence sufficient to prove the offence when supported by a Section 20 certificate, as required.

Finally, I note that you have signed the admission. This will now be processed, and an automatic eligibility check will be carried out to determine whether you qualify for a course. You will be contacted in due course with the outcome.


Yours sincerely


Samuel Tingley
Safety Camera Processing Caseworker
MO10 – Met Prosecutions

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Confirming speed: SpeedCurb camera
« on: June 30, 2026, 03:02:00 pm »
I received a NIP for 29 in a 20 and have to choose between speed awareness, penalty + points or a hearing. However, I was somewhat surprised to receive the ticket as I am aware of the camera and limit, therefore I seek to verify my guilt or lack of it. 

The evidence online does not allow me do calculate my speed as it only shows the time of the alleged offence. The secondary image is not time stamped as claimed by the Met. I sent a chase up email to request the missing evidence but now I am nearly out of time. I am reluctant to rely on a phone call if it disproves the offence. I will try calling in the morning to see if they will reveal the delay and confirm the distance between the piezo sensors.

Given that the police will not allow me to check, what is my best option? Clearly, the easy/safe option is to suck it up and take the speed awareness course. Thanks in advance


As you will see, there is a valid calibration certificate but nobody seems prepared to provide the daily check log

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