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Just to expand a bit on what Tincombe has said.

The council cannot enforce the PCN debt until they have registered it with the Traffic Enforcement Centre, (TEC) (a form of county court, but with no courts or judges). They can only do this after the period for payment of the Charge Certificate has expired. Some councils are quite prompt, but others can take weeks.  Registration means the £240 has £10 added to it, being the TEC fee. They then send you an Order for Recovery, at which point you can submit a Witness Statement to TEC ticking the box for "submitted reps but didn't receive Notice of Rejection". TEC will then revert the process to the stage where you submitted representations but got no rejection letter.

Thank you for this, I suppose my biggest worry is if the penalty keeps increasing
Your maximum exposure is the £250 after they have registered the debt. Only if you do nothing at all will it get bigger, because the council will instruct bailiffs to collect the debt.

So be proactive and you'll easily get the matter reverted as explained here.  Witness Statements for parking contraventions are submitted in their thousands, it is a routine matter, and nothing to get worked up about.

Could I just ask when would I know to get the ball rolling with this? Like will they notify me via letter etc.

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+1.

There is NOTHING you can do at this stage because that's procedure.
The penalty won't increase*, it will decrease IF you follow procedure which is set out clearly in this link, start at Charge Certificate:

https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/eat/understanding-enforcement-process/parking-penalty-charge-notice-enforcement-process

There is nothing unusual, rare or unique about your position, we see similar threads regularly. We know the very straightforward procedure and would guide you. Ultimately, your next step is to tick one box on a form, sign and send as directed (email preferably) to the Traffic Enforcement Centre who will CANCEL the charge certificate. The ball would then be in the authority's court.


*- as stated by others, procedurally the authority have to pay TEC £10 to register the debt and this is recoverable from you if you don't follow our guidance. But this and CC surcharge are both cancelled by TEC if you follow procedure.

Sorry just to confirm, I should do nothing until I receive this form?

Sorry this is the first time this is happened and I'm finding it quite overwhelming

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Just to expand a bit on what Tincombe has said.

The council cannot enforce the PCN debt until they have registered it with the Traffic Enforcement Centre, (TEC) (a form of county court, but with no courts or judges). They can only do this after the period for payment of the Charge Certificate has expired. Some councils are quite prompt, but others can take weeks.  Registration means the £240 has £10 added to it, being the TEC fee. They then send you an Order for Recovery, at which point you can submit a Witness Statement to TEC ticking the box for "submitted reps but didn't receive Notice of Rejection". TEC will then revert the process to the stage where you submitted representations but got no rejection letter.

Thank you for this, I suppose my biggest worry is if the penalty keeps increasing

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IMO, you have two separate issues here:
1. Their evidence that they considered and rejected your formal representations and your claim that you did not receive this response. This is procedural and financial;

2. The substantive matter of your PCN and whether an adjudicator would allow any appeal, which also has financial implications.

As regards 1, we will guide you in order to reduce the current charge of £240 down to at least £120 and possibly £60.

As regards 2, we would advise how to take the matter to adjudication and give views on your prospects.

For now there is nothing for you to do. You do not step outside procedure with correspondence to all and sundry, you stay within procedure, keep an eye on your post and the council's website once the CC's 14 days have expired and keep us up to speed.

The biggest issue is that I even said to them that I was happy to pay the original £80 fine


Thanks for your help, I will keep you updated

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So they got your reps but you didn't get the notice of rejection. Not a loading bay but poorly marked no loading on double yellows near to your car.







Yes that's correct, apart from two letters saying the charge has/had increased.

Do I have a leg to stand on here, or is it a lost cause?

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So one windscreen served PCN.

You seem to have got a notice to owner to which you made representations but got no rejection and now you have a charge certificate?

If that is the case then you can file a witness statement at debt recovery stage.

What are the PCN number and car VRM.

Yes that sounds right!

BT27650364
YK18 BGT

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Following the appeals process. No-one has contacted to say whether an appeal was unsuccessful etc
I think you need to tell us what the PCNs were for or better still show them.
Served on your vehicle or by post, etc.

It was one PCN for being parked in a no loading bay (I had no choice as I am a disabled driver and needed to pick up emergency medication). It was a physical ticket on my car. I appealed this, didn't hear back, it increased to £160. I then appealed this decision, and got another letter in the post today stating it had been increased to £240 as "no representations have been made". I have proof that I made these reps and am 100% certain no correspondence from the council has been received

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Got a letter in the post saying that the amount has gone up as no representations have been made when in fact they have been. I have not received anything to say that my representations were unsuccessful

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Following the appeals process. No-one has contacted to say whether an appeal was unsuccessful etc

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Enquiry
« on: May 21, 2026, 03:14:27 pm »
Would anyone know whether it is worth contacting the local MP in regards to a PN? I have tried locating a number for Brent PCN appeals but apparently they only entertain written correspondence...

Long story short, 3 PCN appeals have been ignored as I have not heard anything back, yet the PCN has now increased from £80 to £240

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