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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Imperial Road - Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle (m) motor vehicles
« on: May 10, 2026, 12:52:11 pm »
I would appeal on the grounds of inadequate and misleading signage.

If you entered from the Emdale Road end, there is almost no meaningful indication that you’re approaching an LTN. The sign is placed in the wrong position and gives you no real chance to process it before you’re already committed.

If you entered directly, the signage is — in my view — confusing because it’s paired with a Controlled Parking Zone sign. Your brain processes the CPZ sign first, and by the time you realise there’s a prohibition underneath, you’re already past it.

Realistically, this should be a No Entry ⛔️ sign with an exemption plate underneath, which is the standard layout when a road is closed to motor vehicles except for specific classes. For some reason, LBHF have not used the clearer, more intuitive layout.

I should also point out that TomTom and Google Maps both route drivers down this road, which strongly suggests the Traffic Regulation Order database has not been updated properly. When sat‑navs consistently misroute, it reinforces the council’s obligation to ensure signage is clear, unambiguous, and adequately lit.

In my view, you should appeal anyway. If they reject it, take it to the adjudicator. Yes, if you lose you’ll have to pay the full amount — but you can prepare over several months by putting small amounts aside rather than paying in one hit. And if you win, you’ve saved £160 and earned yourself a slap‑up meal with your significant other for beating LBHF’s ludicrous LTNZ setup.

Please let us know how you get on.

Miffed of Penge

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Imperial Road - Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle (m) motor vehicles
« on: May 10, 2026, 12:40:30 pm »


Hello everyone,

I’ve recently been caught by the Imperial Road LTN, and after going through the evidence from Hammersmith & Fulham, I’ve noticed several issues that I think others here may have experienced too.

1. The sign on my side of the road was unlit

My contravention happened late in the evening. In the council’s own footage, the sign that applies to my direction of travel is completely unlit. That alone raises questions about compliance with the Traffic Signs Regulations, which require signs to be visible and legible during hours of darkness.

2. The sign layout is backwards

According to the Traffic Signs Manual, the primary restriction must be the first thing a driver sees.
But on Imperial Road, the council has placed the Controlled Parking Zone sign above the No Motor Vehicles restriction, meaning the first thing your eyes go to is the least relevant part. That creates a moment of hesitation — and that hesitation is exactly where people get caught.

If you look at Google Street View from 2020, the sign was clearer and better laid out. Oddly, other parts of LBHF use the correct layout. Imperial Road seems to have its own improvised design.

3. The council’s own evidence undermines their case

I’ve now received the evidence bundle for my adjudication in October 2026.
Their video clearly shows:

• The sign on my side is unlit
• The layout is confusing
• They rely on Google snapshots rather than proper surveys


If this is the standard they’re presenting to an adjudicator, it speaks volumes.

4. This LTN isn’t about clean air — it’s about revenue

Imperial Road has no residential frontage. Meanwhile, Emden Street and the surrounding roads are absorbing the displaced traffic, fumes, and congestion. Who exactly benefits from this “clean air”? Certainly not the residents of the neighbouring streets.

LBHF even states in their rejection letter that they “do not want external drivers” using their borough.
Yet we’re constantly told London is “one city” and we all pay for the roads through VED, VAT on fuel, and general taxation. You can’t claim London is unified while individual boroughs carve out private fiefdoms.

5. If we don’t push back, they’ll keep doing it

It has taken nearly 10 months for my case to reach adjudication.
If more people appeal rather than pay, the cost to the council rises sharply — printing, reviewing, preparing evidence, officer time. They rely on people giving up.

I won’t. And I encourage others not to either.

In the coming months I’ll also be writing to the Daily Telegraph, News Shopper, and any local papers willing to highlight the inconsistency, poor signage, and the displacement of pollution onto other streets.

6. Let’s share experiences

If anyone else has been caught here — or anywhere else — I’d be interested to hear:

• Was your sign lit?
• Was the layout confusing?
• Did the council rely on Google images?
• Did you notice displaced traffic on surrounding roads?


Councils increasingly treat motorists as a revenue stream, and unless we challenge inadequate signage and poor scheme design, nothing will change.

Best wishes,
Miffed of Penge

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