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It went down to 130

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I received an letter stating: "the respondent filed a statutory declaration/witness statement on 03-APR-24. It is ordered that the order for recovery of unpaid penalty charge be revoked. Ot is further ordered that the charge certificate and the notice to owner/enforcement notice be cancelled....
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It's dated 03-APR-24 even though I've sent an email on 19 march.
The price on the website is still 204£

I didn't call. I really have a lot of stuff on me. Even though I've planned to. I did not call TEC

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I hope you haven't sent any such form to the tribunal, TEC and the tribunal are two different things.

Please can you confirm exactly what you've sent where? Have you called TEC as Neil suggested?


I've sent the TE9 form to tec@justice.gov.uk . I have not called them yet. Didn't receive a response yet. sent an email on 19 march.


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I have a new question to ask the forum

I've sent the TE9 form for PCN number FR60053578

but it turns out the form wasn't correctly filled. I'm guessing they didn't read the pdf correctly cause on my side everything is filled correctly but they have sent me back the form without ticks in place.

I have sent back the correct form which they have attached, but now I'm worried if I did in time, cause I don't have easy access to the old address and only know about the order of recovery being sent by the change of price on the website.

what will happen if I've sent TE9 out of time without TE3 form ?

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Little update on the case. Penalty ticket number FR60217890 : after appealing to the traffic tribunal "The Enforcement Authority has informed the Tribunal that it will not contest your appeal against the
Penalty Charge Notice(s) stated above." as the borough of Waltham forest didn't send the document ( I think it was notice of rejection) to any of my addresses.

Now I've just checked the price for my ticket FR60053578 changed to 204£ so I've sent TE9 form to tribunal. Unfortunately I haven't included that penalty in my appeal as I didn't find that letter in my old address or I missed it, so I've ticked "I haven't received the penalty on the form". I believe I will have to pay this one.

The other one is funny cause on the photos there is no yellow ticket on the window.

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What are you talking about. You have not told me anything. I've sent TE9 for FR60217890 why would this one be different.

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Well, notice of of rejection for the one mentioned. Came to my old address, and I didn't receive it on time. I'm checking on the website that it is still on 195 pounds. I'm waiting till it comes to 204 so I can send the TE9 form as they've sent it to the wrong adress

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Hey @cp8759

I have organised the documents

link




And my appeal
"
*My name*

*This is where my current address was*
, London

Dear Sir/Madam,

I am writing to appeal against the multiple Notice to Owner (NtO) that I have received for parking in a permit only zone. The penalty charge notice numbers are: FR60217890, FR60053170, FR60053228. I did not receive the original Penalty Charge Notices (PCN) that were issued, and therefore I was not aware of the charges or the deadline for payment. This resulted in the NtO being sent to me, which increased the amount due.

I would like to request that you cancel the NtO and revert to the original PCN amount, as I did not have a fair chance to pay or challenge the charges. I would also like to contest the validity of the PCN, as there are no signs marking the permit only zone when driving from Buxton Drive into The Forest. I was unaware of such a restriction and there was no indication that I was entering a controlled parking zone.

Additionally, I did not find any PCN on my car window when I returned to it, which suggests that they were either not issued or removed by someone else. Therefore, I had no way of knowing that I had committed a parking offence until I received the NtO.

I have attached some photos of the location where I parked and the entrance to The Forest from Buxton Drive, showing the lack of signage. I hope you will consider my appeal and cancel the charges. Please let me know the outcome of your decision as soon as possible.

Thank you for your attention and cooperation.

Yours faithfully,
"

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Hey guys. Okay, now I understand.

Yes I would like to go to a tribunal with this one.

Yes I would you @cp8759 to represent me.

I uploaded the whole rejection of representation letter to the sky drive now

link

With this one is easy cause I received NtO on my new address but I also have put address in the headline of the appeal.

So what's the next step ? Should I appeal on the grounds of procedural impropriety ?

The other two penalties are still on 195£ but FR60053578 is the one I have not included in my appeal as when I was picking mail from my old address I must missed it and I retrieved after the appeal so I don't know what to do with this one. I haven't got the yellow ticket on the window for this one or the other ones.

As for the FR60053170 the yellow ticket is not even on the pictures with the pcn.

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 @cp8759 Right so I gott the letter from Waltham forest, stating that the representation was rejected as there are signs on the road, although they also said what I've highlighted on the photo. I gott my v5c before the date stated (28/09/23) so DVLA had my current address not the old one.

The question is : if they are wrong on that will I win the case and they will cancel the ticket and what will happened if I lose ?.

Thanks for your help @cp8759 I owe you

P.S I also never had the original yellow tickets on the window.
P.S2 I will upload the whole mail to sky drive when I'll sit to my laptop tommo



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Allright @cp8759 The FR60217890 on the website came down to 65 pounds. I'm considering to just pay for it now and have it over with. What's gonna happen if I'll just pay on the website now ?. The other two are still on 195.

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@cp8759

Or anyone interested.

It took me a while, but I've sent the email with the TE9 form today for the (FR60217890).

In the Email I've just mentioned that I have attached the form as required.

The other PCN's on the Waltham Forest website are still on 195 £ so I'm assuming order for recovery didn't come onto my old address yet I will sent the TE9 forms as soon as that happens.

All right so as u said @cp8759, I'll update you when it have been processed.


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Would you like me to represent you at the tribunal?

Yes.


I have uploaded all the documents (except order for recovery) I posses onto google drive :link if u want to have a look on it.

There might be some missing as I was cleaning and they all look the same. I think I mixed some of them with a spam and threw it away.

I've hidden the address (just left the beginning of the postcode "HP1" for the old address and "London" for the new one) as it's on public drive.

Awaiting reply. Thanks !

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Hey @cp8759

Thank you, your post it's super helpful.



FR60217890: NtO received 11/09/23 on the new adress ,FR60053170:  NtO received on the old adress on 29/08/23, FR60053578 : NtO received 31/08/23 on the old adress

FR60053228 has been cancelled after my appeal.

I've just received order for recovery for FR60217890. That's the one original PCN sent correctly on my new address, but notice of rejection sent to my old adress, so I'm filling TE9 that I didn't receive the notice of rejection.
The other 2 PCN are stil on charge certificate state as I'm checking on Waltham forest website and it's 195 for those 2.  I cannot check remotely for my mail at the old one.

Now I'm wondering what will happen after my TE9 form will be sent.

I will sent TE9 for the other two when I'll get the order of recovery for them too. I live quite far from the old adress so I'm checking on Waltham forest website if the amount to be paid has changed.

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Don't what this is but hey cancelled one of the pcns

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