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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Dart charge - non payment - bailiff
« on: November 04, 2023, 11:38:07 pm »
Sorry I replied directly to your comment and now I can't see it, so apologies if i am repeating myself?

The previous owner did tell dart charge he was not the registered keeper, should he have submitted something more formal in writing to them (I am not sure how he notified them only that the bailiff told me they were notified from him).

Additionally, can the old registered keeper argue the situation, considering it makes no difference who paid the fine, can he not do the out of time submission, or does the fact that he received the documentation and made no real effort to sort it out mean there is no recourse?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Dart charge - non payment - bailiff
« on: November 04, 2023, 10:49:37 pm »
I understand how to buy and sell a car however my husband is not experienced and was buying private. In fact, I don't think the log book even required a signature. He had the green slip to hand in order to tax the car, he was not aware the rest of the log book was still in the car paperwork in his possession.

Yes the previous owner would definitely have received the original PCN however he does not have this to show me. Would a SAR request to DART in relation to the number plate be beneficial at all?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Dart charge - non payment - bailiff
« on: November 04, 2023, 09:59:53 pm »
Thank you all for your replies.

I think the main issue is the V5, so to explain - husband bought car in 2020 and was given the log book to deal with by the old keeper - we didn't realise this until the old keeper called us up regarding the fine at which point he also told DART he was not the registered keeper - the bailiff reiterated this to me so I know they have a record of this at least. They continued with court action despite old keeper notifying DART of the fact. I assume the registered keeper then continue to ignore correspondence aware that he has notified DART, and us, and the fine was technically not his.

Husband found log book in his paperwork after speaking with old keeper (and wondering why old keeper got the fine). The offence was november 2022 so by the time the keeper contacted us we promptly sent V5 off to DVLA in January 2023 notifying them that he has been keeper since 2020 -log book now confirms this.

The payment was indeed a goodwill gesture to the old keeper under the assurance that he would co-sign any documents we may require in order to obtain a refund so he would be quite open to dealing with any Court forms I could prepare for him. I am just not sure if my submission of appeal to DART is enough or whether I needed to deal with the Court side of things as well.

I think that is everything but if you need any further information I would be happy to provide.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Dart charge - non payment - bailiff
« on: November 04, 2023, 12:05:36 am »
I have no paperwork apart from what the old reg keeper sent me but I’ll bullet point it simply:-

🇬🇧Husband is reg keeper of vehicle.
😩DVLA issues, so old reg keeper received dart    charge fines.
💀Eventually old reg keeper called husband and told him bailiffs have a warrant of control and Ł400+ needs to be paid.
🤷🏼‍♀️I have paid the bailiff on the fact that this is unfair to the old keeper.
🔎I now have written a letter of appeal to dart charge as per bailiffs lovely instruction…obviously we received zero paperwork and are hoping to go back to square one with the original PCN.

Log book currently states husband as reg keeper from date of offence but this wasn’t correct at the time of the contravention still being in the name of the previous keeper.

Would anyone be able to advise if I should do anything further?

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