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Speeding and other criminal offences / SJP Received - Dual Charge (S172 and Speeding) - Didn't receive my NIP
« on: March 19, 2026, 10:35:14 am »
Hi everyone,
I'm hoping to get some advice on how to correctly fill out my SJP online response. I've been hit with a dual charge (Speeding and S172 Failure to Furnish) because of a missing letter.
Here is the timeline of what happened:
06/10/2025: Underlying speeding offence (35mph in a 30mph zone in Leeds).
The original NIP went to my wife. She filled it out and returned it, naming me as the driver.
I then waited for my own NIP/S172 request, but it genuinely never arrived in the post. Police obviously didn't get a reply from me.
10/03/2026: SJP Notice issued to me with both charges.
The Charges on the SJP:
Offence 1: S172 (Fail to give information relating to the identification of the driver) - Offence date 04/12/2025.
Offence 2: Speeding (35 in a 30) - Offence date 06/10/2025.
My Goal:
I was the driver, and I am completely willing to accept the 3 points and fine for the 35 in a 30. However, I want to avoid the 6 points for the S172, as I honestly never received the letter.
I've been reading up and understand that doing a "split plea" online (ticking Guilty for Speeding and Not Guilty for S172) is a trap that could result in me getting convicted of both and receiving 9 points. I want to do the standard "plea bargain" at court (offer to plead Guilty to the speeding if the prosecutor drops the S172).
My Questions:
To execute this plea deal at court, exactly how should I respond to the SJP online right now? Do I plead "Not Guilty" to BOTH offences to force a court hearing?
Is there a specific box I need to tick or a statement I should include in the mitigation/comments box online, or do I just leave it blank and wait for the court date?
Thanks in advance for your help!
I'm hoping to get some advice on how to correctly fill out my SJP online response. I've been hit with a dual charge (Speeding and S172 Failure to Furnish) because of a missing letter.
Here is the timeline of what happened:
06/10/2025: Underlying speeding offence (35mph in a 30mph zone in Leeds).
The original NIP went to my wife. She filled it out and returned it, naming me as the driver.
I then waited for my own NIP/S172 request, but it genuinely never arrived in the post. Police obviously didn't get a reply from me.
10/03/2026: SJP Notice issued to me with both charges.
The Charges on the SJP:
Offence 1: S172 (Fail to give information relating to the identification of the driver) - Offence date 04/12/2025.
Offence 2: Speeding (35 in a 30) - Offence date 06/10/2025.
My Goal:
I was the driver, and I am completely willing to accept the 3 points and fine for the 35 in a 30. However, I want to avoid the 6 points for the S172, as I honestly never received the letter.
I've been reading up and understand that doing a "split plea" online (ticking Guilty for Speeding and Not Guilty for S172) is a trap that could result in me getting convicted of both and receiving 9 points. I want to do the standard "plea bargain" at court (offer to plead Guilty to the speeding if the prosecutor drops the S172).
My Questions:
To execute this plea deal at court, exactly how should I respond to the SJP online right now? Do I plead "Not Guilty" to BOTH offences to force a court hearing?
Is there a specific box I need to tick or a statement I should include in the mitigation/comments box online, or do I just leave it blank and wait for the court date?
Thanks in advance for your help!