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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: SJPN received - 35 in a 30 zone
« on: March 04, 2026, 11:19:19 pm »
Thanks for your quick and helpful response :)

I had read elsewhere that sometimes you cannot respond online to a NIP if you were the driver, but I am fairly sure that I would only have responded online if there was an answer that was pertinent to my situation i.e. that I was the driver.  Unfortunately and regrettably I did not screenshot any of the form, which is now very annoying!

I am 100% sure there was at the very least an online response option though, as I remember inputting the code provided (but not much else unfortunately).

My slight concern and reason for seeking your input was that I wanted to make it as simple as possible for the court staff to understand what I was saying/offering. Of course I can explain this to the prosecutor if I have to attend court but ideally it would be disposed of on paper (I'm not sure if this still happens - it was Surrey and I live in Kent, in case that helps.

If I do need to attend court and speak to the prosecutor do I need to have the conversation on a 'without prejudice' or any similar basis?  In other words can I speak relatively freely or do I need to be careful not to make concessions or incriminate myself? I am a civil solicitor and feel comfortable handling without prejudice negotiations but really have no clue on the accepted criminal process (it is some 30 years since I studied criminal law!)

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Speeding and other criminal offences / SJPN received - 35 in a 30 zone
« on: March 04, 2026, 10:03:21 pm »
I would be grateful for some guidance on my predicament.

I have received a SJPN for a speeding offence of doing 35 mph in a 30 zone - I accept that I did this. I have also been charged with the s.172(3) offence of failure to provide information.
When I received the original NIP I tried to provide my details using the online portal and it appeared as though my answer had been submitted and I anticipated receiving a further communication in due course.

In fact I received a further NIP and so again tried to provide the information via the online portal. This time it said my response had 'already been submitted'.  I therefore assumed that all was well and that I would be contacted in due course.  Unfortunately I did not take screenshots of either of these processes, which obviously I am now regretting!

I understand that the best approach is to plead 'not guilty' to both offences and then to say that I am prepared to plead guilty to the speeding offence if the failure to provide information charge is dropped.

In completing my plea online there is a box for each offence as to the reasons for pleading not guilty, and so this is how I plan to answer:

Offence 1 (speeding)
"I am willing to plead guilty to this offence on the condition that the "failure to provide driver's details" (offence 2) charge is dropped."

Offence 2 (failure to provide information)
"I am willing to plead guilty to the speeding offence (offence 1) on the condition that this charge is dropped.

When I received the Notice of Intended Prosecution I attempted to provide the driver details using the online portal via the link provided in the Notice.  This appeared to have been processed when I submitted the form, although unfortunately I did not take a screenshot.  I subsequently received a further Notice of Intended Prosecution, and I again attempted to submit the driver details via the online portal.  On this occasion a 'pop-up' message was displayed saying my response had 'already been submitted'.  I therefore reasonably believed that the information I had previously provided had been captured.

In these circumstances, if the court is minded to drop this charge and accept my guilty plea for the speeding offence, I would respectfully invite the court to consider sentencing me for the speeding offence at a level equivalent to the fixed penalty."

Please could you let me know whether in your view I have done this in the optimum way to achieve my aim of getting 3 points on my licence and the fixed penalty?  Or would it be better to leave the 'mitigating circumstances' bit for the next stage?

Thank you for your time.

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