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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Multiple Barnet Council PCNs A5 bus lane on motorbike
« on: November 01, 2023, 11:43:35 am »
Sounds like you're an expert on this. Thank you so much, I'll send you an email
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Multiple Barnet Council PCNs A5 bus lane on motorbike
« on: October 30, 2023, 01:42:14 pm »
Aaah gotcha, uploaded a full one here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1X0LVBAdTS7r-rDs9gswqywh8v4xz25rc
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Multiple Barnet Council PCNs A5 bus lane on motorbike
« on: October 29, 2023, 08:35:23 pm »
Sorry, must've messed up copy-pasting. Here are the fixed links:
Here are the locations:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/LrUmiuHV35sdcikx8
https://maps.app.goo.gl/HVKa1cACPAv7X21L9
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Tr7KbhqSBYgTgyGR7
Here are the pictures of each PCN, pictures / videos of the alleged crime, the challenge email receipt, the challenge response letters:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ufSebVJBDq6fD6oy_o5jSR89Hcwc8I9w?usp=drive_link
(you'll need to ask for permission to view)
Here are the locations:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/LrUmiuHV35sdcikx8
https://maps.app.goo.gl/HVKa1cACPAv7X21L9
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Tr7KbhqSBYgTgyGR7
Here are the pictures of each PCN, pictures / videos of the alleged crime, the challenge email receipt, the challenge response letters:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ufSebVJBDq6fD6oy_o5jSR89Hcwc8I9w?usp=drive_link
(you'll need to ask for permission to view)
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Multiple Barnet Council PCNs A5 bus lane on motorbike
« on: October 29, 2023, 08:27:12 am »
Hi,
posting http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=151892 here too as I saw news of that forum not being in use anymore.
On 06/10/2023 I went into London on a motorbike.
I think I read somewhere that in London bus lanes are a-OK for motorbikes so I just used them.
I think in some parts of London the signs are still not updated to motorbikes too even though they are allowed on TFL turf. This is very confusing.
Unfortunately, Barnet Council does not like motorbikes in their bus lanes and this was on a weekday at 6.45pm so the bus lanes were in effect.
I received 3 PCNs for driving on the A5 in the bus lane on 3 separate locations.
I believe I just stayed in the buslane throughout to be fair.
They are all timestamped within a minute.
I'm still in the discounted phase, I have until the 10th November to pay up or it will double.
65 quid each, which will double to 130 quid each.
I'm fine with paying one of them, even though I think it's bullshit that they allow bicycles but not motorbikes.
But definitely not all of them, I think that's taking the **** here.
I read some of the threads here and submitted a challenge based on the fact that I believe I've been fined for the same thing 3 times. I asked for the Traffic Regulation Order that specifies 3 bus lanes there.
"Hi, I received 3 PCN letters: AG44146057 AG44143117 AG44143795 the dates and times are very close on these 27/09/2023 at 18:46:02, 46:48, 46:40 all on the A5. I believe I
may have been fined for the same bus lane offence 3 times. Could you please send me a copy of the Traffic Regulation Order that specifies 3 bus lanes there?"
I got a response in a letter yesterday that they uphold all 3 penalties. There doesn't seem anything that addresses my request for the TROs.
Here are the locations:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/51%C2%B03...19444?entry=ttu
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Dominic+S...wbxct?entry=ttu
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ashford+R...vg88n?entry=ttu
Here are the pictures of each PCN, pictures / videos of the alleged crime, the challenge email receipt, the challenge response letters:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ufS...?usp=drive_link
(you'll need to ask for permission to view)
I have in the meantime moved permanently to Spain, but I suppose I still can't just ignore these unfortunately.
Nice parting gift from Barnet really.
My questions are:
1) Can I just pay one of them on time (65 GBP) and challenge the other two?
2) Do I now need to take these to tribunals?
3) Do you know of any other technicalities based on which I can challenge them all?
For example in the colour shots my number plate is too blurry to be readable. Only in the black and white (flashed) shot it is readable.
The painted white lines are quite worn down almost completely disappearing in parts. This is well visible in some of the council's videos/photos.
Many thanks!
posting http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=151892 here too as I saw news of that forum not being in use anymore.
On 06/10/2023 I went into London on a motorbike.
I think I read somewhere that in London bus lanes are a-OK for motorbikes so I just used them.
I think in some parts of London the signs are still not updated to motorbikes too even though they are allowed on TFL turf. This is very confusing.
Unfortunately, Barnet Council does not like motorbikes in their bus lanes and this was on a weekday at 6.45pm so the bus lanes were in effect.
I received 3 PCNs for driving on the A5 in the bus lane on 3 separate locations.
I believe I just stayed in the buslane throughout to be fair.
They are all timestamped within a minute.
I'm still in the discounted phase, I have until the 10th November to pay up or it will double.
65 quid each, which will double to 130 quid each.
I'm fine with paying one of them, even though I think it's bullshit that they allow bicycles but not motorbikes.
But definitely not all of them, I think that's taking the **** here.
I read some of the threads here and submitted a challenge based on the fact that I believe I've been fined for the same thing 3 times. I asked for the Traffic Regulation Order that specifies 3 bus lanes there.
"Hi, I received 3 PCN letters: AG44146057 AG44143117 AG44143795 the dates and times are very close on these 27/09/2023 at 18:46:02, 46:48, 46:40 all on the A5. I believe I
may have been fined for the same bus lane offence 3 times. Could you please send me a copy of the Traffic Regulation Order that specifies 3 bus lanes there?"
I got a response in a letter yesterday that they uphold all 3 penalties. There doesn't seem anything that addresses my request for the TROs.
Here are the locations:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/51%C2%B03...19444?entry=ttu
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Dominic+S...wbxct?entry=ttu
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ashford+R...vg88n?entry=ttu
Here are the pictures of each PCN, pictures / videos of the alleged crime, the challenge email receipt, the challenge response letters:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ufS...?usp=drive_link
(you'll need to ask for permission to view)
I have in the meantime moved permanently to Spain, but I suppose I still can't just ignore these unfortunately.
Nice parting gift from Barnet really.
My questions are:
1) Can I just pay one of them on time (65 GBP) and challenge the other two?
2) Do I now need to take these to tribunals?
3) Do you know of any other technicalities based on which I can challenge them all?
For example in the colour shots my number plate is too blurry to be readable. Only in the black and white (flashed) shot it is readable.
The painted white lines are quite worn down almost completely disappearing in parts. This is well visible in some of the council's videos/photos.
Many thanks!
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