1
Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Re Genuine Do Not know who was driving to complete S172
« on: February 19, 2026, 12:40:47 pm »
Date of offense was 29th August 2025. I'm sure we won't be that lucky.
Show Posts
This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.
Pages: [1]
2
Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Re Genuine Do Not know who was driving to complete S172
« on: February 17, 2026, 06:04:35 pm »
Thank You NewJudge again for your advice. I can assure you that I contacted all the drivers several times to ask them if they could recollect when they were in the vehicle. No one could remember whether they were the one behind the wheel at 10.02. I downloaded the camera images from the Met to see if that could help identify the driver but to no avail. I'm not sure what else I could have done. The problem is that there is no - most likely to have been driving because we were all taking it in turns. I feel uncomfortable asking someone to effectively take one for the team. I think we will have to respond again to the Met repeating that it is impossible to complete S172 and take whatever is going to happen.
3
Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Re Genuine Do Not know who was driving to complete S172
« on: February 17, 2026, 02:41:01 pm »
But we have had a letter from the Met Police with yet another S172 stating its a final opportunity to provide info. Are you suggesting I shouldn't respond to that letter. In a previous communication, I provided the names and addresses of all the people using the car on that morning but no one person was nominated.
4
Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Re Genuine Do Not know who was driving to complete S172
« on: February 17, 2026, 12:44:04 pm »
Thank you very much to everybody who responded. It would seem that as we cannot provide driver details we need to respond as we did before to the Police and wait for them to either drop the case (unlikely from what you have all said) or prosecute the Company
5
Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Re Genuine Do Not know who was driving to complete S172
« on: February 16, 2026, 06:06:23 pm »
With all due respect, for the day in question all 6 of us were on the log as using the car. If 6 drivers were driving the car throughout the morning how are we supposed to know which one of us was driving the car at 10.02am. We were all in and out of the car carrying assorted bits of furniture, builders debris, cleaning equipment and none of us paid any attention to who was where at any particular time. Would it be normal behaviour to clock people in and out when we were all working together to clear this flat? Of course not - that's not real life.
As all 6 of us were nominated drivers and we do not know who was driving, not only would it be a lie to pick one person but it would be unfair.
The log does not record by the minute who was driving. In real life again this would never happen.
How does a Company plead guilty please. There doesn't seem to be any space on the S172 to answer in this way. Or does this only happen if the Company is prosecuted
As all 6 of us were nominated drivers and we do not know who was driving, not only would it be a lie to pick one person but it would be unfair.
The log does not record by the minute who was driving. In real life again this would never happen.
How does a Company plead guilty please. There doesn't seem to be any space on the S172 to answer in this way. Or does this only happen if the Company is prosecuted
6
Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Re Genuine Do Not know who was driving to complete S172
« on: February 16, 2026, 04:54:39 pm »
The car registered keeper is a company and I am the administrator. The log confirms which of the 6 cars registered to the Company are being driven by which person. On the day in question there were 6 of us using one car
7
Speeding and other criminal offences / Re Genuine Do Not know who was driving to complete S172
« on: February 16, 2026, 04:12:31 pm »
Hello - really wondering if I could get some advice re the above as am wits end.
One of Company fleet vehicles was being used by 6 of us working in 3 pairs, to clean and clear a flat pending the arrival of a new occupant. I have provided the Met with the contact details of the 6 drivers, copy of my phone records when I made calls to try and establish who was driving at the precise time that the camera flashed and recorded 25mph in a 20mph zone, copy of the log that we hold to check who is driving what car (The log records who has the car on a daily basis not per hour or minute)and a copy of the document confirming the new occupant moving in date - a day after the offence. All to no avail. The second reminder again invited us to give name of driver. I replied to that saying it was impossible to know which of the 6 drivers was driving and we have done our very best to ascertain who was driving at that exact time. I have now had a third reply asking exactly the same. I cannot give a name when I don't know which of the 6 of us was behind the wheel. Would be so grateful for any advice as to how to respond. Thank you
One of Company fleet vehicles was being used by 6 of us working in 3 pairs, to clean and clear a flat pending the arrival of a new occupant. I have provided the Met with the contact details of the 6 drivers, copy of my phone records when I made calls to try and establish who was driving at the precise time that the camera flashed and recorded 25mph in a 20mph zone, copy of the log that we hold to check who is driving what car (The log records who has the car on a daily basis not per hour or minute)and a copy of the document confirming the new occupant moving in date - a day after the offence. All to no avail. The second reminder again invited us to give name of driver. I replied to that saying it was impossible to know which of the 6 drivers was driving and we have done our very best to ascertain who was driving at that exact time. I have now had a third reply asking exactly the same. I cannot give a name when I don't know which of the 6 of us was behind the wheel. Would be so grateful for any advice as to how to respond. Thank you
Pages: [1]