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Quote from: andy_foster on 06 Feb, 2026 12:17It depends. Some areas explicitly state in the SJPN bundle that if you plead guilty to the speeding, the s. 172 will be dropped. Some times that is done without prior agreement or notification. Sometimes they will simply accept your guilty plea for the speeding and proceed to try the s. 172 charge.As regards probability, you've gotta ask yourself one question - "Do I feel lucky?". Well, do you, punk?To be honest, I really need the s172 to be dropped (the letter genuinely never arrived). It's Sussex Police, do you know what is their position on this? There is nothing in the SJPN that says that if I plead guilty to the speeding the S.172 will be dropped.

Quote from: andy_foster on 06 Feb, 2026 12:17FTFYThanks, sorry yes, that's what i meanQuoteWhat hearing are you referring to? My understanding if plead NOT guilty on both, then I will be given a hearing/court that I need to attend, as I will be overseas, I can't attend and negotiate the deal in the court.

Hi AllSummary of my situation• I have received a Single Justice Procedure Notice (SJP) dated 04/02/2026 (received 05/02/2026). Plea deadline: 25/02/2026.• Charges:1. Speeding – 35mph in a 30mph limit on 07/08/2025 2. s.172 fail to give driver information – police state a NIP/s.172 was posted to me on 02/09/2025 and they have no record of a reply (I will plead Not Guilty as I never received it).Key facts• V5C address correct throughout.• The initial NIP was responded to by my father, nominating me with my correct name and address.• I did not receive the 02/09/2025 s.172 and no one in my household received it either. My father is really good with monitoring letters for everyone.• I was staying away from home in rented accommodation on documented dates: 07/07/2025–22/11/2025, extended to 12/12/2025 (and earlier 13/04/2025–11/05/2025). I can provide the tenancy agreement and extension evidence.Objective• Resolution by pleading guilty to speeding and seek withdrawal of the s.172 charge (to avoid 6 points).Practical constraint• I will be overseas from third week of Feb until September 2026, so I may need:• representation at hearings, and/or• applications for adjournment to after November or remote attendance.I understand the stock advice is to plead guilty for both charges and ask for a deal to plead guilty for speeding if the s172 dropped. But the problem is that I will be away for 7 months from third week of Feb. So won't be able to attend the hearing/court.Would it better if I plead guilty to speeding and not guilty for S172 in the SJP, and contact the prosecutor to drop the S172 prior to hearing? what is the best way to approach this and likelihood of success vs the above.