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News / Press Articles / Re: Lambeth LTN illegal
« on: June 13, 2025, 09:06:39 pm »
Is the High Court decision retroactive ? Could I/we get a refund for a PCN paid a few months ago ?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: TfL, Driving in a bus lane, Bromley Rd
« on: March 04, 2025, 09:27:44 am »
Quote from: Hippocrates on March 03, 2025, 07:17:37 pm
I have a technical appeal re the PCN and will dig it out later. I have won 4 out of 4 recently.

I would be happy to give it a go, thanks!

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: TfL, Driving in a bus lane, Bromley Rd
« on: March 04, 2025, 09:26:52 am »
Quote from: John U.K. on March 03, 2025, 04:38:24 pm
There are at least these 'Bromley Roads' in the TfL area
Bromley Road (E17)
Bromley Road (N17)
Bromley Road (SE6)
Bromley Road Chislehurst
Bromley Road Beckenham

Does Bromley Road SE BND mean SE as in postal district or South-East Bound as in direction of travel?

It may be clutching at straws, but the location is meant to readily identify the location to the registered keeper, who may well not have been the driver on the day in question.

You need to telephone TfL and ask for them to send you the video (the evidence) and place the PCN on hold whilst they do so, and do watch deadlines.

If we decode the location as "Bromley Road South-East Bound Opposite Watermead Road" then that is accurate. It looks like there is only one "Watermead Road" in the whole of London ...

Called TfL and asked for the video as well.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / TfL, Driving in a bus lane, Bromley Rd
« on: March 03, 2025, 04:19:44 pm »
Hello,

I received a PCN for being in a bus lane. The bus lane is in operation 24/7 and I briefly entered it to avoid stopping for a car turning right. Not an excuse but then the bus lanes on this road are 95% of the time empty... The camera is fairly recent as well, was installed in the past few weeks / months.

Are there any ways to get this ticket challenged ? I am happy to try as long as there are some chances of success.
I don't know if it's relevant but I am no longer the registered keeper of the car, although I was on the day of the contravention. 

This is the spot on google maps: https://www.google.com/maps/place/51%C2%B025'45.7%22N+0%C2%B000'51.0%22W/@51.4293618,-0.0148127,247

And here is the PCN:



Is there any technical argument that can be used against TFL ? I remember that I while ago bus cameras weren't legally approved to be used for enforcement.

Thanks.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Bromley, Code 73, Parked without payment (wrong reg plate selected on RingGo)
« on: December 18, 2024, 09:22:29 am »
Thanks everyone, Bromley council agreed to cancel the PCN stating it was the first and last time they would do it for me.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Bromley, Code 73, Parked without payment (wrong reg plate selected on RingGo)
« on: December 03, 2024, 12:24:06 pm »
Thank you stamfordman, will challenge the PCN in a polite way.

It is not my first ever offence in Bromley, but last time I did pay the PCN after having forgot to pay for parking.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Bromley, Code 73, Parked without payment (wrong reg plate selected on RingGo)
« on: December 03, 2024, 11:53:05 am »
Hello,

I have received a PCN for parking without payment from the Bromley council. What happened is that I did pay for parking (through RingGo) but for the wrong reg plate.

I use more than one car on regular basis so I have several options to chose from in RingGo. I chose the wrong one this time and got the PCN. The receipt from RingGo shows that payment happened before the PCN was issued and supposedly Bromley can actually see that both numberplates are associated to my account. It seems that they cannot claim loss of revenue.

Is there a reasonable prospect for getting this PCN cancelled ?

Thank you.
 

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Bromley, code 73 parked without payment, Lennard Rd card park
« on: December 04, 2023, 11:04:38 pm »
Quick update: the PCN has been cancelled by the council. I have not received any email / letters but the website says "There is no outstanding charge for this Penalty Charge Notice."

Thank you all for you help.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Bromley, code 73 parked without payment, Lennard Rd card park
« on: October 24, 2023, 02:36:16 pm »
Quote from: cp8759 on October 23, 2023, 09:22:58 pm
I wouldn't over-complicate this, just send a representation point out the hours of operation displayed in the car park and let's see what they say. It might just be that the CEO made a mistake, it does happen. One of our most illustrious members only got involved in this subject because he was given a PCN on a Saturday for a disabled bay that was only a disabled bay Monday to Friday, that mistake has cost the council tens of thousands over the years.

Thank you, sent it and will let you know what comes out of it.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Bromley, code 73 parked without payment, Lennard Rd card park
« on: October 23, 2023, 10:37:59 am »
Sorry, added it to the main post.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Bromley, code 73 parked without payment, Lennard Rd card park
« on: October 23, 2023, 09:38:22 am »
I have updated the main post with the full PCN photo and some photos from the council. Even the council photos show "Hours of operation: Monday to Friday"!

It was raining heavily when I returned to the car and found the PCN, so didn't spend much time outside, but I did not see any other sign with parking times info. I can go have a look in the next few days if needed though.

Thanks.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Bromley, code 73 parked without payment, Lennard Rd card park
« on: October 23, 2023, 09:09:01 am »
Hello everyone,

I left my car this Saturday at a council run car park and got fined for non-payment. However, the information panel says "Hours of operation: Monday to Friday". I did have a look on Ringo afterwards and it does ask for payment on Saturday, but this contradicts the information panel info.

Will it be straightforward to get the PCN cancelled ? After all, the council ought to display the correct information if they expect people to pay for parking on Saturday!

Thanks!

Here are the photos of the information panel and the PCN:


 

The evidence photos from the council (there are a few more but they're just photos of the car):

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