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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Kingston Upon Thames PCN 47j Stopped on a restricted bus stop Location – Clarence Street
« on: Yesterday at 07:08:16 pm »
Hi Hippocrates,

I have received a reply today in the post rejecting the representation, please see below and let me know what you think!

Regards

Paul

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Kingston Upon Thames PCN 47j Stopped on a restricted bus stop Location – Clarence Street
« on: January 06, 2026, 09:26:10 pm »
Thanks Hippocrates, it's not the best weather for a night venture!

I'll make the representation now.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Kingston Upon Thames PCN 47j Stopped on a restricted bus stop Location – Clarence Street
« on: January 04, 2026, 07:16:15 pm »
Ok, Thank you. I'll sit tight until then.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Kingston Upon Thames PCN 47j Stopped on a restricted bus stop Location – Clarence Street
« on: January 04, 2026, 06:52:56 pm »
Hi Again Hippocrates & Stamfordman,

I've made a trip today to get some photos of the signs and location.....on foot this time!

Please let me know your thoughts on the signs & if I should proceed.

The long shot of the bus top also shows just the one streetlight which made any sign visibility at night poor, but unsure if this is arguable evidence.

Many Thanks in advance.

P

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Kingston Upon Thames PCN 47j Stopped on a restricted bus stop Location – Clarence Street
« on: January 02, 2026, 03:04:38 pm »
Hi Hippocrates, you are tempting fate there!

It's interesting on google maps, the age difference with pictures....
see here...all from google...
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Are you referring to the no loading sign that does not have the XX?

I will make a trip later and get some pictures, in the meanwhile i will hold off sending the respresentation

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Kingston Upon Thames PCN 47j Stopped on a restricted bus stop Location – Clarence Street
« on: January 02, 2026, 02:44:00 pm »
Hi Hippocrates, should I hold off with my representation? I can take a trip and go and take pictures if need be?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Kingston Upon Thames PCN 47j Stopped on a restricted bus stop Location – Clarence Street
« on: January 02, 2026, 12:58:21 pm »
Thank you Sir, I will prepare my response and launch it back to RBK. Will keep you posted on the outcome!

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Kingston Upon Thames PCN 47j Stopped on a restricted bus stop Location – Clarence Street
« on: January 02, 2026, 12:45:32 pm »
Should i add this too into my representation? Or save it for later...?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Kingston Upon Thames PCN 47j Stopped on a restricted bus stop Location – Clarence Street
« on: January 02, 2026, 12:02:29 pm »
Thanks again Hippocrates, I shall await your reply! Also, should I add ALL the information to my representation that you supplied above?

Regards

P

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Kingston Upon Thames PCN 47j Stopped on a restricted bus stop Location – Clarence Street
« on: January 01, 2026, 07:50:52 pm »
Hi Hippocrates,

You are indeed a gentleman. I was wondering about visibility!

I am about to make representation online but I need enter the grounds for representation. I cannot get past this screen without selecting something. Would I be correct in choosing "The contravention did not occur" ? Or would you advise otherwise?
Please see link below.

https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/a2PcsWv_xl.jpg

Best Regards

P

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Kingston Upon Thames PCN 47j Stopped on a restricted bus stop Location – Clarence Street
« on: December 31, 2025, 09:35:52 pm »
Oh dear, and excuse my poor spell checking, just seen it! Should know better as I was born there too!! End the year on a high....!!

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Kingston Upon Thames PCN 47j Stopped on a restricted bus stop Location – Clarence Street
« on: December 31, 2025, 09:33:47 pm »
Many Thanks Hippo & A Happy New Year To You & All.

The broad yellow line which should have alerted me is one I was not aware of but will be now!
I'm still not happy that I would have never seen the sign in the poor lighting there at night.

And my son said he was going to take the train but I offered (as any Dad would!) to take him!

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Kingston Upon Thames PCN 47j Stopped on a restricted bus stop Location – Clarence Street
« on: December 31, 2025, 09:13:44 pm »
Ok, not good. No chance I would have seen that pulling over!
There's me thinking I shouldn't stop on the double yellows to let them out!

Should I await some news from Hippo?


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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Kingston Upon Thames PCN 47j Stopped on a restricted bus stop Location – Clarence Street
« on: December 31, 2025, 08:52:05 pm »
Hi Good Evening & A Happy New Year To All!

Royal Borough of Kingston very kindly sent me a Christmas present when I dropped my son and his girlfriend off the other night to their Christmas party - a £140 PCN!.

At approximately 22.22pm I pulled in to a bus stop on Clarence street (which I have done in the past to the exact same bus stop) to let them out, was there for 15 seconds and then returned home.
It was poorly lit there despite what the night vision camera shows and I had no chance of seeing any of the signage.
And I was not expecting to receive a PCN.

Is this PCN something I can and should challenge?

I have uploaded, all of the forms, pictures, and street view link below, and would appreciate some help and advice.

PCN
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Streetview (although this does appear to be out of date, as no scaffolding is there anymore)
https://maps.app.goo.gl/1SVFiaweSmPPwmrx5







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