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I've used that junction for years, but only ever coming from spears road and crossing over. I'd never noticed the 'no right turn' from Hornsey before. Its not actually a T junction though as Spears and Fairbridge are offset, so techincially you turn left onto Hornsey and then turn right from Hornsey to Fairbridge as I've done many times over the years and never received a fine for that...

Anyway last week I received a fine in the same circumstance as you - driving down Hornsey and turning right onto Fairbridge. Did you have any luck with this Conor? I've received the same letter and am looking at appealing.

Hi! Interesting point about turning out of Spears Road. It looks like they allow that if you haven't had a ticket, I won't be risking it though!
No luck unfortunately. This forum hasn't been much help and I lost my first appeal. My deadline to pay reduced penalty is today and I'm not sure I can be bothered taking it further. I'm also not really not sure how strong my appeal is (focussing on the wording discrepancy of the PCN) as I haven't heard of anyone winning based on this appeal. I might be wrong though. I wish you all the best with it!

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Hi all, I’m looking for some advice on whether it’s worth taking this to tribunal.

I received a PCN for a Prohibited Right Turn - Hornsey Road jun with Fairbridge Road:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/TDTzsxgTUL6kDJL47

I challenged it on the basis that the PCN wording does not comply with paragraph 4(8)(v) of the Act.

The PCN states that an increased charge may be payable if I “fail to pay the Penalty Charge or make representations before the end of 28 days beginning with the date of service of the notice. My argument was that the Act requires the PCN to state that the increased charge applies only if the penalty charge is not paid within 28 days beginning with the date of the notice, and that the wording used misstates the legal trigger, conflates different statutory periods, and creates ambiguity.

The council has rejected the appeal with a fairly standard response and did not really address the statutory wording point in detail.

Before I decide whether to take this to London Tribunals, I’d appreciate views on:

- whether this wording argument is still considered strong,

- whether adjudicators have accepted or rejected similar points recently,

- whether there’s anything I should add or refine if I proceed to tribunal.


Please see initial PCN below





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Plus the response to my first appeal.









Thanks in advance for any guidance.

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Happy Christmas everyone.

I recently got the same letter regarding the right-turn violation off Hornsey road into Fairbridge Road.
I got frustrated at an incredibly slow vehicle in front and took an early right turn (oops).

Did anyone have any joy in appealing this?

I see Hippocrates mentioned the wording problem ("if you fail to pay the Penalty Charge or if you fail to make representations")
Is this worth pursuing, as I'm aware if I lose the damage will be even more (£160!!).

Thanks,
Conor

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