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Private parking tickets / Re: PCM ticket - giving friend her prescription
« on: December 23, 2025, 08:42:58 pm »
OK, I can see the Notice to Driver (NtD) now. this is how you deal with the initial appeal...

Do NOTHING until day 27 which is Monday 5th January, when you appeal, but ONLY as the Keeper of the vehicle. There is no legal obligation on the Keeper to reveal the identity of the unknown driver and no inference or assumptions can be made.

The NtD is not compliant with all the requirements of PoFA which means that if the unknown driver is not identified, they cannot transfer liability for the charge from the unknown driver to the known keeper.

Use the following as your appeal. No need to embellish or remove anything from it:

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I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your parking charge.

I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I require you to cancel the PCN or refer the matter to independent Alternative Dispute Resolution.

Your Notice to Driver does not comply with the mandatory requirements of Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012. In particular, it fails to specify any period of parking. As a result, you are unable to transfer liability to the keeper. Partial or substantial compliance is irrelevant.

There will be no admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumption may be drawn. Your allegation, if any, is against the driver only.

I am now providing the keeper’s name and address for service. You therefore have no lawful basis or necessity to request keeper data from the DVLA. Any DVLA request made after receipt of this appeal will constitute unlawful and excessive processing of personal data, in breach of UK GDPR Articles 5(1)(a), 5(1)(c), and 6(1), and will be treated as a data misuse for which I will pursue complaints and compensation without further notice.

The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable.  You are urged to save us both a complete waste of time and cancel the PCN or issue a rejection with details of ADR.

[Name]
[Address]
[PCN No.]
[VRM]

On another note, can you ask the resident the driver was visiting to provide a copy of their lease or AST.

We need to see exactly what it says about parking and visitor rights. What it does not say is just as important as what it does.
In the vast majority of residential parking cases, the parking operator has no authority that overrides the resident’s rights under their lease, nor the rights of their visitors exercising those rights. Any scheme introduced later cannot unilaterally remove or restrict those rights unless the lease expressly allows it.

Once we have sight of the lease/AST, it will be extremely useful for how this case is handled going forward.

I shall do on the 5th. Thank you for your assistance.

I will try get the paperwork for the lease or anything equivalent

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Private parking tickets / Re: PCM ticket - giving friend her prescription
« on: December 21, 2025, 09:53:52 pm »
At the moment, your description is too vague to give you reliable, case-specific advice. “Closest place to give girl her prescription she requires due to her heart rate” does not tell us what actually happened, what the driver did, why that location was chosen, what alternatives were available, or what the driver saw (or could reasonably have seen) in terms of signage.

If the only reason was to stop and provide medication, why was the car left unattended?

If you want meaningful assistance, you need to provide a proper narrative, in plain terms, of the events. For example:

What was the destination and why?
Did anyone leave the vehicle, and if so, for how long and why?
Was the engine running?
Where exactly was the vehicle positioned (entrance road, bay area, roadway, turning circle, etc.)?
What signs were visible near vehicle and on approach?
Was there any obvious marked bay, permit bay, visitor bay, or any bay markings at all?
Was the driver a resident, visitor, contractor, or completely unconnected to the site?

You have also not provided the Notice to Keeper. Without the NtK, no one can properly assess keeper liability, compliance, or whether the operator has even followed the basic requirements they must follow before pursuing the keeper.

Now, based on what you have provided:

1. The photos only show a short period and no clear parking bay

The operative’s timestamped photos run from 09:00:58 to 09:07:11 (just over 6 minutes). That is a very short period.There are no bay markings visible. If the operator is alleging “parked outside a marked bay” or “not parked wholly within a marked bay”, their own evidence becomes questionable if there is no clearly marked bay to comply with.

2. The entrance signage is prohibitive, not an offer to park

The entrance sign states “Permit Holders Only” and then points drivers to other signs for terms. That is not a clear offer of parking to non-permit holders. It is a restriction. If parking is not being offered to that class of driver, then there is nothing capable of acceptance and no contract can be formed with that driver on those terms.

3. The internal terms sign also makes authorisation a pre-condition

The terms sign requires either a valid permit or a registered visitor parking session. That again frames the arrangement as permission-based parking, not “anyone may park if they agree to pay a charge”. In plain terms: it reads as “you are not allowed to park here unless authorised”.

Where signs are framed this way, the operator’s case moves away from contract and towards an allegation of unauthorised parking/trespass. A parking contractor cannot recover a contractual “parking charge” from a driver if the signage does not actually offer parking to them in the first place.

4. Incorporation and fairness of the £100 term

The entrance sign does not mention the charge amount. The £100 appears on the terms sign. For any contractual charge argument, the operator has to show that the driver had a fair opportunity to see and understand the key term before any alleged “acceptance”. With only a brief period evidenced (around 6 minutes), and unclear bay layout, that is not straightforward for them.

On the signage you have shown, there is a strong argument that no contract was capable of being formed with a non-permit holder because the signage is prohibitive and authorisation-based. The short period of photographs and the lack of bay markings further undermines any allegation that the driver breached “marked bay” requirements.

If you want assistance and advice you should provide:

1. A proper narrative answering the practical questions above, in full sentences.
2. A clear copy of the Notice to Keeper (both sides, all pages).
3. The exact allegation stated on the PCN/NtK (contravention code/wording).
4. Any site photos showing the wider layout, including where the vehicle was relative to signs.

If you cannot be bothered to provide those basics, then you should not expect anyone to waste their time trying to defend it for you.

Driver received a call. Drove straight and parked closest to the window of person who needed there medication. Wasn’t aware of any signage due to reason of driving there as it was last thing I was thinking.

Upon arriving a conversation was had including ensuring they are ok and calm especially knowing they needed the medication.

Engine was not running, vehicle was left for not long tbh. Vehicle was positioned further down and in a position to avoid blocking anything as it’s quite an awkward set up there. There was bays but they were full due to numbered bays.
Driver was a visitor.

NtK as far as I am aware isn’t sent out yet.

The exact contravention says :

Parked
outside of the confines of a Marked bay.

I will have some photos taken

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It's in Westminster controlled parking zone A2 which applies Mon - Fri 8.30am - 6.30pm. Sat 8.30am - 1.30pm.

How long were you away from car?

I’d say around 20-30mins

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Here is the relevant sign as one approaches Chelsea Bridge Road to go north from CHelsea Embankment: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/SL3P6jKWtVERALLD7
There would need to be an identical sign at the zone entrance coming the other way.

So where in GSV did you get this? : -
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What is quite confusing is as shown in the GSV the times mentioned is Monday-Friday but this PCN was given on a Saturday. Or is this sign strictly for the bus lane?

This was from

https://maps.app.goo.gl/5QJxJ7fGe2RjrFqK6

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There is a restricted time zone sign way further down the road so I guess this is the one that applies.
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https://ibb.co/HfHStjsL

Do they expect us to be aware of this? What if I didn’t drive down that route?


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Hi,

Regardless of the times, this was emergency as I was dropping off medication needed by my girlfriend in the building I had parked next too. This was the closest place accessible to her.

What is quite confusing is as shown in the GSV the times mentioned is Monday-Friday but this PCN was given on a Saturday. Or is this sign strictly for the bus lane? There is no other signs shown on this street.

PCN, evidence & sign :

https://ibb.co/jvCxwbD1
https://ibb.co/YFgbHFkx
https://ibb.co/99tM7DyB

GSV :

https://maps.app.goo.gl/3J3xwn3zWcfTQXj8A?g_st=ipc


Appeal draft :

Dear City of Westminster,

I am writing to formally appeal the Penalty Charge Notice issued on 13/12/2025.

Firstly, I believe the PCN has been issued incorrectly, as the restricted time zone displayed applies from Monday to Friday only. The alleged contravention took place on a Saturday, and therefore the restriction was not in force at the time the PCN was issued.

Secondly, I would like to appeal on compassionate and medical grounds. My girlfriend, who lives at 54 Chelsea Bridge Road, urgently required her prescribed medication after it was accidentally left in my possession in the car. This medication had been prescribed for a heart-related condition, and delaying access to it posed a serious risk to her health. In order to get the medication to her as quickly and safely as possible, I parked at the closest available location to her address.

I acted in good faith and solely out of concern for her wellbeing, with no intention to contravene any parking restrictions. I will be providing evidence of her prescribed medication along with a signed statement from her to support this appeal.

I respectfully ask that you take these circumstances into consideration and cancel the Penalty Charge Notice.


Any help is appreciated. Thanks

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Private parking tickets / PCM ticket - giving friend her prescription
« on: December 21, 2025, 11:08:11 am »
Hi,

Received the following PCN from PCM.

Was closest place to give girl her prescription that she requires due to her heart rate.

I will attach PCN below

https://ibb.co/dwmKkNZs

Location GSV :

https://maps.app.goo.gl/19L9ofaDqYZNfpVT6

PCN evidence :

https://ibb.co/ns1cwYY8
https://ibb.co/cKxTxzg6

Any helps appreciated,

Thanks

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