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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: PCN stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
« on: December 10, 2025, 10:37:58 am »
Quote from: Incandescent on December 10, 2025, 10:01:10 am
Quote from: gnollo on December 09, 2025, 11:45:44 pm
Thank you Incandescent, is that really best practice? I mean it would be great but I have never seen parking signs at the boundary, usually they are placed in the middle of the parking area? Has anyone won this based on the sign placed not at the edge of the parking boundary?
It is only guidance, I'm afraid.

Thank you, I don't think I really have a strong case so I have just paid the fine so it is out of my way. Thank you for the advice anyway.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: PCN stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
« on: December 09, 2025, 11:45:44 pm »
Thank you Incandescent, is that really best practice? I mean it would be great but I have never seen parking signs at the boundary, usually they are placed in the middle of the parking area? Has anyone won this based on the sign placed not at the edge of the parking boundary?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: PCN stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
« on: December 09, 2025, 03:41:10 pm »
That was the only space available and at the time I only saw the sign that stated I could park for an hour.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: PCN stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
« on: December 09, 2025, 12:44:49 pm »
https://ibb.co/SwWt7rj2

Tried to add it as img but it does not work for this link, if you click on the link it will open the screenshot

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: PCN stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
« on: December 09, 2025, 12:03:07 pm »
It is unclear what I am carrying from the picture, probably a black bag on that day, which I guess would not qualify as "loading"

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: PCN stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
« on: December 09, 2025, 11:49:29 am »
https://maps.app.goo.gl/VvKtLRxdw9Gymcp7A location of the parking bay where I parked

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: PCN stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
« on: December 09, 2025, 11:48:11 am »
Penalty number GX3139576A, license plate KT18UCW

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / PCN stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
« on: December 09, 2025, 11:43:37 am »
Contravention location
O/S 5-13 PERRY VALE SE23

On this section of Perry Vale there are two parking zones, with an outline in white, next to each other.
No red lines on the floor inside the parking area (i have pictures but I am not sure how to attach them).
The sign of the area that I parked in says "RED ROUTE, No Stopping on Any Day 7am-7pm. Except Loading Max 20minutes or max 3 hours - disabled logo"
The sign for the section right next to where I parked says "RED ROUTE, No Stopping on Any Day 7am-7pm. Parking 1 hour no returns within 2 hours".
I did not realise that the two sections had different parking rules, I only say the sign nearer to the car, which was the one I saw.
Should the floor marking for the loading only be different? If not I guess no point me appealing for this irregularity?
Can TFL cameras generate fines if I am not actually parked on a double red line?



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