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I received a PCN at 15:58, during which I was in the process of purchasing my session on RingGo which eventually went through at 16:04, which is 6 minutes after I got the PCN.

Is there an argument here to appeal based on de minimis? Would appreciate any other advice, I just feel this is very excessive.

Some context, I am a resident of a property on the street I received a PCN, but I haven’t got a permit  as my vehicle predominantly stays at my mothers address.

Images are now here given Imgur has now been blocked in the UK:  https://postimg.cc/gallery/d0xrsPZ

Hopefully no issues with the link

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Fair point. The car is shared with my mother so when she visits I pay for a visitor permit as the car is usually parked at my mums address so have a permit there. She was with me at the time but I purchase the visitor permit on her behalf essentially.

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Bumping this to see if anyone else can spot any fatal errors with this PCN, otherwise will appeal for discretion and likely bite the bullet

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The bay sign attached. I’ll see what others say and then will try appeal for discretion but as you pointed out not getting my hopes up

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Hi all,

I received a PCN from Islington for parking on a resident road without a valid ticket. This is on a road where I actually live, and therefore have a visitor permit which I often use, however this time I forgot to pay.

I don’t hold a full resident permit as I share this vehicle and it’s mainly parked at my mums address in Camden.

Initially wanted to appeal asking for discretion from the council and showing evidence of my visitors permit and my past transactions. But wanted to get views from experts here to see if there is another angle. Below is the PCN and pics.

Thanks in advance

https://imgur.com/a/bMiuRLj


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I initially thought this was a private PCN, but apparently this is a council PCN managed by Wing.

The driver parked in an estate, and the PCN was issued on car window.

See image of PCN below. I’ve read conflicting advice online with regards to whether this should be appealed/paid. Can someone pls advise?

Thanks

https://imgur.com/a/tj9LMhl

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I’m a bit confused, I logged in to the TfL portal to see what it says, and it’s now saying £160 due, which is the full priced PCN.

I’m not saying the contravention did not occur, I don’t think I can argue that. But what I can argue is that I did not receive their response and therefore should be given the chance to pay the discounted price, but I know losing at the tribunal  would mean I’d have to pay the £160 anyways… so what can I argue?

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I received a letter through the post from TfL, which appears to me that they will be proceeding with its enforcement and taking me to London Tribunal.

The envelope included an evidence pack with about 50 pages on the case. All this despite the County Court ordering TfL to revoke the Charge Certificate.

One thing I wanted to note, is that under the ticket history TfL provide in the evidence pack, they say that they emailed me with a response to my challenge on 5th Feb… I’ve looked through my emails and can find no email from TfL on this. The whole reason I’m in this position is because I didn’t receive a notice of rejection to my original appeal, otherwise I would have paid the discount amount.

How do I proceed from here?

Link here (including TfL ticket history and County Court order) https://imgur.com/a/RuZa7rt

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Must admit there were 3 separate PCNs from Horizon, all of which appealed with the same points and succeeded on the same grounds.

I too was surprised in how quickly they got back to me, thanks everyone on this forum who helped much appreciated.

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Thanks, appeal successful. See below reasoning:

Decision
Successful

Assessor supporting rational for decision:
I am allowing this appeal, with my reasoning outlined below: Firstly, I note that the appellant has raised multiple appeals with POPLA. I must advise that POPLA assess all appeals on an impartial case by case basis and as such each PCN must be appealed by the motorist separately. In this instance I am only assessing the appeal for POPLA code: 3761085019 which was issued to PCN number HP3717239. Within their grounds for appeal, the appellant and questioned the parking operator’s rights to issue PCNs on this land. They have requested evidence of the contract the parking operator has with the landowner. The Private Parking Sector Single Code of Practice (The Code) sets the standards its parking operators need to comply with. Section 14.1 of the Code states that where controlled land is being managed on behalf of a landowner, written confirmation must be obtained before a parking charge can be issued. In this case, whilst I acknowledge that the parking operator has stated that they are under no obligation to provide commercial documents, it would be appropriate for the parking operator to provide this and the appellant has directly challenged this. As evidence of the contact the parking operator may have with the landowner has not been provided, I am not satisfied that the parking operator has fully rebutted the appellant’s grounds for appeal. The appellant has raised other grounds in their appeal, but as I am allowing the appeal, it is not necessary for me to address these.

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I’ve attached Horizons evidence pack. Let me know if any issues.

Thanks for the template, should I appeal with that only or couple it with my initial appeal with the points already raised?

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Hi,

I received an email from POPLA telling me Horizon has uploaded evidence and that I have 7 days to provide commentary.

I attach the evidence pack in the link: https://imgur.com/a/LI8MOBu

Any advice would be appreciated.

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Emailed the store, PCN cancelled

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I haven’t called yet, I tried to pay through TfL website

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