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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Marginal Speeding Offence - Accuracy of Equipment
« on: June 04, 2026, 04:44:58 pm »
Thanks all. Understood.
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Speeding and other criminal offences / Marginal Speeding Offence - Accuracy of Equipment
« on: June 04, 2026, 12:26:53 pm »
Good Afternoon.
I've just received a NIP from Surrey Police for an offence of 57.3mph in a 50mph zone, by an automatic camera device.
This is obviously a very marginal offence as, using the 10% + 2mph rule the minimum speed you can get prosecuted for is 57.0mph.
I've gone onto their website and viewed the evidence, as well as the calibration certificate for the camera. However, the calibration certificate does not state the accuracy/measurement uncertainty of the equipment. Any given item of measuring equipment has a certain stated figure for accuracy/measurement uncertainty, as nothing can be infinitely accurate. If the measurement uncertainty of the device in question was, for example, +/- 0.5mph then in my eyes the prosecution isn't valid, as I may have been going only 56.8mph, for example.
Would it be prudent to request this information, and how should I go about doing this?
Thanks
I've just received a NIP from Surrey Police for an offence of 57.3mph in a 50mph zone, by an automatic camera device.
This is obviously a very marginal offence as, using the 10% + 2mph rule the minimum speed you can get prosecuted for is 57.0mph.
I've gone onto their website and viewed the evidence, as well as the calibration certificate for the camera. However, the calibration certificate does not state the accuracy/measurement uncertainty of the equipment. Any given item of measuring equipment has a certain stated figure for accuracy/measurement uncertainty, as nothing can be infinitely accurate. If the measurement uncertainty of the device in question was, for example, +/- 0.5mph then in my eyes the prosecution isn't valid, as I may have been going only 56.8mph, for example.
Would it be prudent to request this information, and how should I go about doing this?
Thanks
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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: NIP from TVP for 47 in a 40. Any advice?
« on: November 16, 2025, 03:19:22 pm »
Thanks NewJudge, sounds like i'd better take it on the chin and keep my fingers crossed for a speed awareness. Thanks
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Speeding and other criminal offences / NIP from TVP for 47 in a 40. Any advice?
« on: November 16, 2025, 10:56:45 am »
Good Morning everyone,
I've recently received a NIP through the post from Thames Valley Police. The NIP was received within 14 days of the alleged offence. I was caught by a camera van in one of their favourite 'money-printing' spots - the 40mph section of the A33 Northbound, three-lane wide dual-carriageway, straight, well-sighted, and just after the national speed limit section.
My only slight reservation with the legitimacy of the penalty is that I'm a little sceptical that the camera van had a clear line of sight to my front number plate as I approached it. The van was parked on the grass verge adjacent to lane 1, whilst I was in lane 3 and had a car directly in front of me. Perhaps this is just wishful thinking on my part, and the fact that I've received a NIP shows that they must have had?
I've never had any points on my licence previously (22 years clean), but did do a speed awareness course just over 2 years ago. That was a for exceeding 70mph on the motorway, caught by a gantry camera. My initial thought was that I won't get offered a speed awareness course this time, as it's within 3 years of my last one. However, I did see it suggested somewhere that motorway offence speed awareness courses differ from non-motorway offence speed awareness courses, meaning the 3 year rule doesn't count. Wishful thinking again I guess, and I can't find the details of my previous speed awareness course to confirm.
So in summary, is there anything I can do, or should I just take it on the chin and accept it? If I were to request evidence are you then committed to pleading 'not-guilty'?
Any thoughts/advice appreciated, before I accept my fate!
I've recently received a NIP through the post from Thames Valley Police. The NIP was received within 14 days of the alleged offence. I was caught by a camera van in one of their favourite 'money-printing' spots - the 40mph section of the A33 Northbound, three-lane wide dual-carriageway, straight, well-sighted, and just after the national speed limit section.
My only slight reservation with the legitimacy of the penalty is that I'm a little sceptical that the camera van had a clear line of sight to my front number plate as I approached it. The van was parked on the grass verge adjacent to lane 1, whilst I was in lane 3 and had a car directly in front of me. Perhaps this is just wishful thinking on my part, and the fact that I've received a NIP shows that they must have had?
I've never had any points on my licence previously (22 years clean), but did do a speed awareness course just over 2 years ago. That was a for exceeding 70mph on the motorway, caught by a gantry camera. My initial thought was that I won't get offered a speed awareness course this time, as it's within 3 years of my last one. However, I did see it suggested somewhere that motorway offence speed awareness courses differ from non-motorway offence speed awareness courses, meaning the 3 year rule doesn't count. Wishful thinking again I guess, and I can't find the details of my previous speed awareness course to confirm.
So in summary, is there anything I can do, or should I just take it on the chin and accept it? If I were to request evidence are you then committed to pleading 'not-guilty'?
Any thoughts/advice appreciated, before I accept my fate!
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