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One further point:According to the information at https://leedscitysquare.commonplace.is/https://leedscitysquare.commonplace.is/en-GB/news/city-square-enters-final-phase-of-construction-from-15-may-2023This new East Parade Bus Gate came into operation on 19 June 2023.The current DFT guidance (which I have copied below) appears to suggest that warning notices, rather than PCNs, should be issued for the first 6 months after a new bus gate begins operation. I would be grateful if anyone with more experience in these matters than myself, could confirm whether this angle is an appropriate challenge in this case."Warning noticesTo promote compliance by helping motorists understand the seriousness of moving traffic contraventions, for a period of 6 months following implementation of enforcement of moving traffic contraventions, at each particular camera location, local authorities outside London should issue warning notices for first-time moving traffic contraventions. This also applies to any new camera location in the future.The warning notice should set out the 6 month period and advise that any further moving traffic contravention at the same camera location would result in the issue of a PCN. It is therefore strongly recommended that accurate records of enforcement commencement dates are maintained.Warning notices should be issued in respect of new restrictions, for example at new junctions and new (or major changes to) road layouts, or existing restrictions, such as a long-established box junction, being civilly enforced by camera for the first time."https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/bus-lane-and-moving-traffic-enforcement-outside-london/traffic-management-act-2004-statutory-guidance-for-local-authorities-outside-london-on-civil-enforcement-of-bus-lane-and-moving-traffic-contravention

On both those photos, you can also clearly see the 'uncontrolled crossing' signs and pedestrians crossing the road at random points (including someone looking at a mobile phone while crossing in front of the car). Such issues make safety of drivers and pedestrians paramount. I think it would be reasonable to argue that this would be a contributing factor as to to how the driver navigates the area, and their ability to processes all the temporary signage as well as two sets of permanent signage (ie the arrows painted on the road, and signs on posts at the side of the road).

Quote from: Jarrv on 05 Oct, 2023 19:03Hi all,My partner has received a PCN from Leeds City Council in the post today, which relates to a 'Alleged Bus Lane Contravention'.34J Being inn a bus lane (during the hours of operation of the bus lane)Location: Bus Gate, East Parade JNC Headrow NorthboundDate of alleged contravention: 15/09/23Date of notice: 28/09/23Date Received: 03/10/23Hi, I have just registered in order to reply to you, as I was travelling as a passenger with someone who has just received a PCN for the same date and location as yours. For what it's worth, my own recollection is that area of Leeds was like driving through a building site on the day in question, with all the boarded up sections, lane closures, temporary signs and road cones scattered around (as shown by the amount of stuff in that one photo!). As far as we were aware, we had been following the only route/lane available, and did not see any obvious signs warning of the bus gate or alternative route to take - so wondered whether it may have been obscured or over-ridden by the roadworks. As pointed out above, the PCN also appears by my reckoning to refer to a different bus gate to the one in the photo/video.