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OK. Well, the video shows a clear contravention assuming all the signs are in position.

So what happened here ? Why did you "have to move" to the left lane.

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the car in front dramatically slowed down and had to move to the left lane, just at last bit of white line, where the buslane supposed to have ended.

The car ahead slowed down dramatically for no reason, had to move out of the way otherwise slam on the breaks.

Hi
I have just received a PCN for my car apparently driving in a bus lane.
I watched the video clearly had no idea as didn't see signs, the car in front dramatically slowed down and had to move to the left lane, just at last bit of white line, where the buslane supposed to have ended.

I have seen few threads around the same spot, in the video there is no sign on end of buslane either or any sign showing the buslane.

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/havering-bus-lane-new-road-phillip-road-rm13-7159/

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/havering-bus-lane-new-road-phillip-road-rm13/

I have attached a copy of the PCN, since I only just got back from holiday and saw the letter, I have made an appeal using this notes from the link below.



https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/pcn-driving-in-a-bus-lane-within-restricted-period/msg33334/#msg33334

Quote from: JustLoveCars on October 31, 2025, 10:19:19 am

Quote from: brucealmighty on October 30, 2025, 12:49:22 am

The documents included a copy of what appears to be the original Notice of Intended Prosecution (NIP), dated 23/05/2025, and a reminder dated 07/07/2025.

Do both of those documents have the 100% correct address on them?  Post does go missing, but 2 separate items becomes harder to show.

In particular, was the V5C address correct at the time of the offence?

It is all correct.

I am just wondering why they did not include the second charge, in comparison to what I have been reading around the thread (I do understand that it's not obligatory).

I received an SJPN in the post with one offence listed on the charge sheet:

“Fail to give information relating to the identification of the driver/rider of a vehicle when required.”

The documents included a copy of what appears to be the original Notice of Intended Prosecution (NIP), dated 23/05/2025, and a reminder dated 07/07/2025.

The alleged offence relates to driving at 62mph in a 50mph zone on 13/05/2025.

Around that time, I was mostly staying with a family member who needed medical assistance, although I was also occasionally at my own address. I genuinely never received any NIP letters.

I’m very concerned about being charged with a criminal offence for something I was never aware of — I’ve never had any criminal record and would have responded immediately had I received the NIP.

All my details — licence, V5C, and other documents — are fully up to date. From what I’ve read, I understand that it’s difficult to prove non-receipt of an NIP, even though I genuinely did not receive one. I also have no points on my licence.

From researching similar cases, I’ve noticed that many people are charged with two offences — one for speeding and another for failure to provide driver’s details — and are advised to plead not guilty to both, stating a willingness to plead guilty to the speeding offence if the other charge is dropped.

However, my SJPN lists only one offence (failure to provide driver’s details). Is there anything I can do to mitigate this situation? I’ve also seen at least one other person mention a similar experience, and I’m wondering why that approach wasn’t applied in cases like ours.

Any guidance or advice would be greatly appreciated, can I contact that them.