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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN - PPS Royal Victoria Docks E16
« on: December 09, 2025, 04:40:45 pm »
I have sent off the complaint b789. Let's see what sort of excuses they come up with.

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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN - PPS Royal Victoria Docks E16
« on: December 09, 2025, 02:59:57 pm »
Hi folks,

Just to update you all I had made the POPLA appeal and not too long after that PPS have withdrawn the appeal as they knew all too well that they will be fighting a losing battle. This is the response from POPLA:

https://ibb.co/rR3Xnrck

Thanks again to everyone on this thread for your support.

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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN - PPS Royal Victoria Docks E16
« on: November 18, 2025, 02:40:45 pm »
Thanks for both of your responses b789 & InterCity125.

I will add on the points you have raised b789 to the POPLA appeal and then send it off closer to the deadline, even if I were to lose the POPLA appeal I will make it as difficult as possible for PPS to get anything from me. And if it is confirmed by Newham Council that Western Gateway is in fact a public road then what exactly is PPS'  role there?

Correct me if I am wrong but they as a private traffic enforcement company have no authority on a public road and that authority lies solely with the local council. Would be interesting seeing the response from Newham Council on that matter.

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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN - PPS Royal Victoria Docks E16
« on: November 18, 2025, 01:29:30 am »
Coming back with an update and as expected PPS have sent a rejection to the appeal.


https://ibb.co/tpS186DJ



I have formed an initial draft appeal below for POPLA, just wanted to know if it's worth adding anything else into it before I send it off to them?




POPLA APPEAL – PPS

PCN: 410887216 • Vehicle: WHZ5275 • POPLA Code: 5663185373
NTK Location: 1 Western Gateway, E16 1XL (incorrect)
Actual Location: 27 Western Gateway
Date: 16/10/2025
Appellant: Registered Keeper (driver not identified)

1. No Keeper Liability – NTK Not Compliant with POFA 2012

PPS cannot pursue the keeper because the NTK fails several mandatory requirements of POFA Schedule 4:
No period of parking (POFA 9(2)(a)) – only a single timestamp.
Incorrect/missing statutory wording (9(2)(e) & 9(2)(f)).
Creditor not identified (9(2)(h)).
Wrong location stated (“1 Western Gateway”) – the vehicle was at 27 Western Gateway.

A materially incorrect location invalidates the notice.
Keeper liability cannot apply.

2. The Alleged Contravention Is Impossible

PPS alleges “Parked on Red Route”, yet:
No double red lines exist.
PPS’s own photos show the vehicle in a marked bay, not on a Red Route.
The alleged contravention could not have occurred.

3. Signage Unreadable, Unlit, and Not Linked to the Bay
PPS’s signage photo is:
Taken in darkness
Unlit and unreadable
Not adjacent to the bay
Not proven to apply to that area

This breaches BPA Code of Practice S.19.7 & S.21.1 (signs must be clear and legible before parking).
No contract can be formed with invisible or irrelevant signage.

4. Contradictory Signage – Terms Cannot Be Enforced

Two conflicting sets of signs exist:
Bay signage: “20 minutes free parking”.
A distant Red Route sign.

Where terms contradict, ambiguity is interpreted against the operator.
The bay signage governs the bay.
No enforceable terms exist for a “Red Route” within a marked parking place.

5. PPS’s Own Evidence Shows 7 Minutes Stopping – Allowed
PPS evidence timestamps:

First photo: ~21:12
Last photo: ~21:19
Total: 7 minutes.

The bay clearly allows 20 minutes free parking. Their evidence proves compliance, not a breach.

6. Authorised Permission – Operator Is Estopped
The driver was expressly told by a PPS warden that:

Waiting to collect passengers was allowed
Up to 30 minutes was permitted
No PCN would be issued

This is a representation by PPS’s authorised agent.
Under estoppel, PPS cannot penalise the driver for relying on permission granted by their own staff.

7. No Site Map – PPS Cannot Prove Any Terms Applied
PPS supplied no site plan, no map, and no evidence showing:
Where signs are placed
Whether the Red Route sign applies to the bay
Whether any sign was seen before parking

POPLA routinely upholds appeals where operators fail to prove signage placement.

Conclusion

The PCN must be cancelled because:
The NTK is invalid under POFA → no keeper liability.
The alleged “Red Route” breach is impossible.
The vehicle was parked for 7 minutes within the permitted 20 minutes.
Signage was unreadable, unlit, contradictory, and not linked to the bay.
PPS stated the wrong location.
A PPS warden authorised the waiting.
PPS failed to provide a site map proving any terms.

For these reasons, this appeal must be upheld and the PCN cancelled.

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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN - PPS Royal Victoria Docks E16
« on: October 29, 2025, 07:26:24 pm »
Thanks for the detailed response b789. Having looked through some of the past threads on here it seems like I am not the only one to have received a PCN from this rogue company, I will make an initial appeal to this company. But im guessing it will be a long process until they decide to back off or the county court steps in and looks at the actual facts and the law, as for POPLA don't have much high hopes there too especially if they are recieving funding from these rogue companies, let's see where this goes thanks again for your help and I will keep you updated on here.

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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN - PPS Royal Victoria Docks E16
« on: October 29, 2025, 04:15:13 pm »
Thanks for your reply I will see how it goes. But knowing these Private companies they will reject the appeal so after that is there like an independent adjudicator or a tribunal that deals with these matters?

I have also attached a few more pics showing the misleading signs and timings of when the first image was taken till last

https://ibb.co/Q3Prks5w
https://ibb.co/hJH7M2DW
https://ibb.co/vnjNvwy
https://ibb.co/0pG9bmZ3
https://ibb.co/6RQzyMvc

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Private parking tickets / PCN - PPS Royal Victoria Docks E16
« on: October 29, 2025, 03:58:42 pm »
https://ibb.co/DDgmBsRp


Hi folks I would appreciate some advice after having received a PCN. I have attached the PCN letter with my post and I will state some of points I believe may be useful in the appeal and wondering if anyone has had any success in appealing against this company for similar PCNs at that location?

1) The Driver of the vehicle is a Transport for London Private Hire Driver, they were told to wait there for passengers coming out from the Greater London Authority building a few yards away from this location

2) The driver had waited within the confines of the small parking box near to 27 Western gateway E16, the sign posts around that location are misleading as on one section it allows 20 mins free parking & on the other it mentions red route no parking at anytime

3) The driver had spoken to an individual in a high Vis vest who introduced himself as ticket warden, he told the driver he can stay for a maximum of 30 mins, the driver asked the warden that if he's not allowed to wait there then he can move his car immediately however the warden had mentioned that there was no need for that and that no PCNs shall be issued

4) From the PCN the location is wrong it has been issued at 1 Western gateway however the vehicle was stationary on 27 Western gateway

5) PCN states it's due to parking on red route but vehicle was within the confines of a red box

6) misleading signs, red routes are designated through double red lines yet this vehicle was stationary within the parking area which allows for 20 mins free parking, from the images viewed on their website the first image was taken at 09:12pm and the last at 09:19pm, this does not equate to the max 20 mins allowed within that parking box area

Would this be worth a successful appeal on these points I made or shall I just pay up?

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