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Quote from: IHateUnfairPCNs on 19 Nov, 2025 04:01Just thought I'd mention here since it's relevant. I've driven past a few school zones in Redbridge and the 'term-time only' text on the blue information signs under the healthy school street zone signage have been redacted/taped over. So the loophole for future cases may just be gone.Yes it was taped over at the time of this "offence"

@HippocratesRedbridge have rejected the appealImages of letter:https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/pq2oq6kbd7sfgh7r7rd01/Redbridge-Rejection-page-1.jpg?rlkey=s6jbsde3649k10y0u1qzzm7rr&dl=0https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/x12bzx8cplmydo50qgc7d/Redbridge-Rejection-page-2.jpg?rlkey=yyax36qo382hgfef7fwi6z7k9&dl=0https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/uowlarf30pmidxqgplb5b/Redbridge-Rejection-page-3.jpg?rlkey=v681voke4bswmdahfihmpgjgb&dl=0Link to PDF:https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/icrewjcqf8mwfno6e7h51/Redbridge-Rejection-of-Representation.pdf?rlkey=7yr6kjmwk6o6icnlaz1zfz7ay&dl=0To my mind, they have just responded with a generic paragraph that completely avoids the statutory requirement.  They have again referred to the date of service not the date of the noticeAlso am I right in thinking that they are referring to the wrong part of the legislation as they are making reference to Charge Certificates?What is the next step and do you think that it is sensible to proceed with fighting this?  What are the chances of success?Many thanks

Quote from: Hippocrates on 28 Oct, 2025 19:19PCN omits mandatory information.I make this collateral challenge against the validity of the PCN as it is missing mandatory information as provided at Para. 4 (8 ) (v) of https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/2003/3/section/4/enacted (v)that, if the penalty charge is not paid before the end of the 28 day period, an increased charge may be payable. Clearly, this refers to Para. 4 (8 ) (iii): (iii)that the penalty charge must be paid before the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the date of the notice; Therefore, it follows that the statement: If you fail to pay the Penalty Charge or make  representations before the end of a period of 28 days beginning with the date of service of this notice an increased charge of £240 may be payable. adds to the lack of clarity by its omission. Even on its own, whether the required information was included or not, it is also arguable that it conflates the two periods using the word "or" which many would view as being conjunctive. Furthermore, even if the statement were to be interpreted disjunctively, there is still no clarity due to the missing informationApologies I have been awayAlso my thread appears to have been hijacked by others so I am not sure where I stand on this and what applies to my wife case or whether it is relating to Unhappyprince9's caseIs the above quoted info in relation to my wife's PCN AF2098641A??Is this the grounds that we should be fighting it on or should it be fought on the poor visibility of signs?What do we need to do next?I am conscious that the 14 day deadline for 50% discount is coming up so just want to know where we stand and what needs to be doneMany thanks for any assistance

The previous appeals were successful despite the presence of that sign though.Is it worth trying?

The images of the PCN were rejected as spam by imgpile so here are Dropbox links:https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/p4qd14zzktymqwf5cedte/PCN-front.jpg?rlkey=io8tic0v81nvjme8j8e016uj3&dl=0https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/loqy1xvc3tq9u5g3z63g6/PCN-back.jpg?rlkey=q1mvotbqauu3jakjj9feakw09&dl=0In case the other imgpile links don't work here are Dropbox links:Photos:https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/irdoi3k63wwmp24oq9y13/2025-10-26-12.09.47.jpg?rlkey=pjt3f1ui04m1280ymt0m49o9a&dl=0https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/bwv5z8wmk6fpmre52khsg/2025-10-26-12.09.56.jpg?rlkey=1np9tw2e9counagyxwr2nxr0t&dl=0Video:https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/fugonntqgrsjsbepedsvf/2025-10-26_12-09-28-front.mp4?rlkey=f22556ggi8bojqw2tmtqua0c1&dl=0

EDIT: Dropbox links to my pictures and video now posted in my reply to this post as imgpile links do not seem to be workingMy wife was visiting an area that she used to live in but had not been back to for a few years.  She turned right into Perrymans Farm Road to drive past her old school, not realising that is now restricted at certain times to pedestrians and cycles only.Given the positioning of the restriction signs which are right at the entrance to the road, and parallel to the main road, they are almost impossible to read.  This is exacerbated by the fact that there is a yellow box there so her focus was on navigating that as she was waiting for a car to let her through.Please can someone advise if she has good grounds for an appeal and the chances of being successfulHere is the GSW link: https://maps.app.goo.gl/mY9w46dNAXxL6bKJ9This is the same location as these previous threads:https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/redbridge-53j-perrymans-farm-road-pedestrian-zone-restriction/https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/redbridge-perrymans-farm-pcn-(school-roads)https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/redbridge-53j-entering-a-pedestrian-zone-perrymans-farm-road/(The "Term time" wording mentioned in these cases has now been covered over by a blue sticker)Front and back of PCN:We took some photos today from which you can see that the signs are extremely difficult to read from the road position when turning right as they are positioned so close to the main road, unlike the 20mph restriction signs that are set back and able to be read before turningHere is a dashcam video taken today that shows the same.  The signs are almost impossible to read by someone in a moving car up to and throughout the turn.  Bear in mind that the dashcam is from a position to the left of the driver (as are the photos as they were taken by a passenger)so from the driver's perspective they signs are even less visibleAny help and advice would be greatly appreciatedThanksN.B. Dropbox links to my pictures and video now posted in my reply to this post as imgpile links do not seem to be working

My wife has also got a PCN for this exact same placeHow can she get assistance with appealing this?Thank you