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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: NIP for 36mph in 30mph zone, vaque reference to Local Traffic Order
« on: October 14, 2025, 03:14:01 pm »
In Section 5 of the NIP at the bottom where you sign and date, there are boxes asking for email and phone number, but nothing to say if they're optional.

Are these details mandatory?

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: NIP for 36mph in 30mph zone, vaque reference to Local Traffic Order
« on: October 14, 2025, 02:06:47 pm »
Quote from: NewJudge on October 14, 2025, 01:56:28 pm
The NIP has only to state "the nature of the alleged offence and the time and place where it is alleged to have been committed". Is the location so vague that you don't know where it is?

If that stretch of the North Circular has a system of streetlighting (which I imagine it has) it is a "restricted road" where the default speed limit is 30mph and no traffic order is necessary.

OK, I understand.
It's clear where the location is, my question was more of have they fulfilled the necessary obligations/details to correctly serve the notice - just referring to 'a Local Traffic Order' seemed lazy and vague. But of course as you point out, there is a default on restricted roads.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: NIP for 36mph in 30mph zone, vaque reference to Local Traffic Order
« on: October 14, 2025, 01:39:01 pm »
Cool, thanks for clarifying.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / NIP for 36mph in 30mph zone, vaque reference to Local Traffic Order
« on: October 14, 2025, 12:41:34 pm »
I've received a NIP for 36mph in 30mph zone on the North Circular, London. Should the actual Local Traffic Order be specified on the NIP for it to be valid? It just vaguely says 'a Local Traffic Order':

Offence: Exceed a 30MPH speed limit in contravention of a Local Traffic Order - automatic Camera device

It then gives date, time, location and recorded speed.

Thanks.

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